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When I did my rotation in psychiatric nursing, one of the first things we learned was that one goal was to get the patient to face reality.
People here who think the cars should be "co-equal" to bikes, kids playing, cross-country skiers, etc are definitely NOT facing reality. Take a 2000+ # plus car, powered by the equivalent of 250 horses, and call it the equivalent of a 70# child (the average weight of a 10 yo), or even a 200# man on cross-country skis, and you qualify for a trip to the Cuckoo's Nest. There's no equivalency!
Other than insulting people you disagree by telling them they aren't facing reality, what's your point? We all aware that a car hitting any of those would result in far more damage to the person not in a car.
I know quite well as a bicyclist that I'm at greater danger in an accident than a car is. That doesn't mean I'm going to stop bicycling nor should it mean only cars get to be on the road cause they're bigger.
Other than insulting people you disagree by telling them they aren't facing reality, what's your point? We all aware that a car hitting any of those would result in far more damage to the person not in a car.
It's not facing reality to call for equality in totally unequal situations. It sure doesn't seem like "all" of "you" are aware of that.
I see you added to your post. Allow me to respond. You are an adult, and presumably following the rules of the road when you ride. You also understand the risk. Some people on this thread are calling for allowing small children to play in the streets, along with the cars, the bikes, the buses, the delivery trucks, etc. The study I posted a link to is not the first study to show that kids can't estimate speed. I read something similar years ago in the American Journal of Public Health. Small kids don't even sense that cars are a danger. They're more likely to be afraid of a dog than a car.
no sidewalks, pedestrians and motor vehicle traffic share the same space. Is it more dangerous? Maybe in some ways, but in a separated space a pedestrian has to cross the road at some point and interact with traffic anyway that isn't continuously expecting a pedestrian.
It's not facing reality to call for equality in totally unequal situations. It sure doesn't seem like "all" of "you" (is this me vs the rest of this forum or what?) are aware of that.
And yet bicycles use the road, too, so I don't follow your logic. I'm not sure if the size is a good argument.
The woonerf mentioned seem to work, though there are pluses and minuses. Are you suggesting they don't face reality?
no sidewalks, pedestrians and motor vehicle traffic share the same space. Is it more dangerous? Maybe in some ways, but in a separated space a pedestrian has to cross the road at some point and interact with traffic anyway that isn't continuously expecting a pedestrian.
The picture looks like an alley, though it might be a street. I don't see any kids playing with abandon. If you click on the one person in this street/alley, you can see that at the end of it, on the perpendicular street, there is a separate bike path with a mother riding a bike with a child. There is a sidewalk of sorts in front of a building.
The picture looks like an alley, though it might be a street. I don't see any kids playing with abandon. If you click on the one person in this street/alley, you can see that at the end of it, on the perpendicular street, there is a separate bike path with a mother riding a bike with a child. There is a sidewalk of sorts in front of a building.
There are homes facing it, it's a residential street. What makes an alley an alley? There's no separation between pedestrians and cars on the smaller side streets in Tokyo, another:
There are homes facing it, it's a residential street. What makes an alley an alley? There's no separation between pedestrians and cars on the smaller side streets in Tokyo, another:
Why does it matter how many people are standing there? My point is there's no sidewalks there, pedestrians share the road.
There's also no one walking there.
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