What sunbelt city has the best pre-wwII urban design? (New Orleans)

[nei]

Originally Posted by HandsUpThumbsDown

New Orleans gets my vote

more than San Francisco?! Or did you ignore San Francisco because you believe it doesn't belong here.

[dweebo2220]

Originally Posted by munchitup

Though they are all certainly vastly different in most ways, Denver, Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles, Oakland, San Diego all sort of remind me of each other to a certain extent.

Completely agree:

from: http://www.city-data.com/forum/city-...year-when.html

Metro area; Year when metro reached 10% of current pop.; % of metro housing stock built pre-1940, % of core city housing stock built pre-1940

Philadelphia; 1860; 21.2%; 39.1%
St. Louis; 1863; 15.8%; 54.4%
Baltimore; 1865; 14.4%; 39.0%
Boston; 1865; 35.7%; 55.6%
New York; 1876; 28.9%; 41.3%
Chicago; 1886; 21.3%; 43.8%
Minneapolis; 1888; 15.0%; 46.7%
Detroit 1905 12.0% 31.7%
San Francisco 1910 20.4% 45.5%
Washington 1917 8.6% 36.1%
Seattle 1919; 11.1%; 29.9%
Denver 1921; 7.1%; 21.4%
Los Angeles; 1925; 12.0%; 20.2%
Houston; 1941; 2.7%; 4.6%
Atlanta; 1941; 3.2%; 14.5%
San Diego; 1941; 4.3%; 7.0%
Tampa; 1942; 2.7%; 8.4%
Dallas; 1943; 3.1%; 5.7%
Miami; 1949; 2.2%; 10.6%
Phoenix; 1951; 1.0%; 1.9%

Just like people talk about "Row House Cities" there are also "Bungalow Cities," which includes LA, Seattle, Portland, Denver, Oakland, etc.

The historic built fabric in these cities look very similar in the core areas: craftsman-style bungalows, some older larger homes, some duplex/triplex/quadplexes, and smaller and larger apartment buildings from the 1910s and 1920s. The boulevards, which were originally built to accommodate streetcars, are mostly made up of single-story brick commercial buildings.

The case can be made to also include Detroit in this group.

[Katarina Witt]

OK, I don't want to totally hijack this thread, but I need some suggestions for a small Easter gift ($5-$10) for my daughter's SOs. Both are in their 20s and engineers. I thought some of you on this forum might have some good ideas.

[Octa]

Originally Posted by Katiana

OK, I don't want to totally hijack this thread, but I need some suggestions for a small Easter gift ($5-$10) for my daughter's SOs. Both are in their 20s and engineers. I thought some of you on this forum might have some good ideas.

N45 Dia 1/2" x 1/16" Disc, Package of 10 Rare Earth Neodymium Magnets - Amazon.com

???

[nei]

Can't think of any relevant gifts, but of generally geeky gifts, I don't think any Coloradan should be without an altimeter.

[Katarina Witt]

They'd probably love the magnets, but I need them by tomorrow morning! I know, procrastination! Thank you, I'll keep that in mind for another occasion. They probably have altimeters. Both are hikers/climbers.

[Octa]

You might be able to find an Ansel Adams book of photos somewhere or a framed one. He was a famous nature photographer.

[Katarina Witt]

Originally Posted by Octa

You might be able to find an Ansel Adams book of photos somewhere or a framed one. He was a famous nature photographer.

Thanks for the suggestion. I think they'd like that. I took my request over to Parenting. I won't continue with the hijack.

[memph]

Originally Posted by dweebo2220

Completely agree:

from: http://www.city-data.com/forum/city-...year-when.html

Metro area; Year when metro reached 10% of current pop.; % of metro housing stock built pre-1940, % of core city housing stock built pre-1940

Philadelphia; 1860; 21.2%; 39.1%
St. Louis; 1863; 15.8%; 54.4%
Baltimore; 1865; 14.4%; 39.0%
Boston; 1865; 35.7%; 55.6%
New York; 1876; 28.9%; 41.3%
Chicago; 1886; 21.3%; 43.8%
Minneapolis; 1888; 15.0%; 46.7%
Detroit 1905 12.0% 31.7%
San Francisco 1910 20.4% 45.5%
Washington 1917 8.6% 36.1%
Seattle 1919; 11.1%; 29.9%
Denver 1921; 7.1%; 21.4%
Los Angeles; 1925; 12.0%; 20.2%
Houston; 1941; 2.7%; 4.6%
Atlanta; 1941; 3.2%; 14.5%
San Diego; 1941; 4.3%; 7.0%
Tampa; 1942; 2.7%; 8.4%
Dallas; 1943; 3.1%; 5.7%
Miami; 1949; 2.2%; 10.6%
Phoenix; 1951; 1.0%; 1.9%

Just like people talk about "Row House Cities" there are also "Bungalow Cities," which includes LA, Seattle, Portland, Denver, Oakland, etc.

The historic built fabric in these cities look very similar in the core areas: craftsman-style bungalows, some older larger homes, some duplex/triplex/quadplexes, and smaller and larger apartment buildings from the 1910s and 1920s. The boulevards, which were originally built to accommodate streetcars, are mostly made up of single-story brick commercial buildings.

The case can be made to also include Detroit in this group.

Kind of interesting to note, but Montreal reached 10% of its metro area population around the same time as Detroit, and Toronto around the same time as Washington and Vancouver around the same time as Denver. Calgary would be similar to Miami. Owing to low growth rates in the late 20th century, Winnipeg is comparable to Montreal in terms of when it reached the 10% mark.

Toronto and Montreal are pretty similar to Washington in that sense, with a built form of 2-3 storey buildings in the older areas and fairly fast growth in the post-war era. I guess Montreal and Toronto were lucky in that Canada doesn't have a sunbelt or even a midwest really.

[Katarina Witt]

So I got the guys these mountaineering whistles from a sporting goods store. I don't want them to lose my daughters! Thanks for all your suggestions. I'm considering ordering those magnets. DH brought some like that home from work and they are STRONG! I have a hard time getting them off the refrigerator to clean it!