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Old 02-20-2010, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Is it possible that an urban planner can mirco-manage a specific area or neighborhood too much, so that the area loses any real or natural character?
Or is it never the fault of the planner, just that the residents are not "out-going" enough?
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Old 02-20-2010, 04:20 PM
 
Location: MN
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Is it possible that an urban planner can mirco-manage a specific area or neighborhood too much, so that the area loses any real or natural character?
Or is it never the fault of the planner, just that the residents are not "out-going" enough?

As an Urban Planner I can tell you that this happens all too often. Sometimes sticking to the KISS method (keep is simple stupid) is the best approach.

Planning is truly a unique and interesting field of expertise. That's why it's not easy, and that there seems to be so many problems with it... It's not easy to plan a particular area to cater for a certain group of people.

Check out some books by Jane Jacobs, Frakn lloyd wright, or my favorite book the art of city making by Landry
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Old 02-21-2010, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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one word: Brasalia
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Old 02-21-2010, 03:04 PM
 
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As an Urban Planner I can tell you that this happens all too often. Sometimes sticking to the KISS method (keep is simple stupid) is the best approach.

Planning is truly a unique and interesting field of expertise. That's why it's not easy, and that there seems to be so many problems with it... It's not easy to plan a particular area to cater for a certain group of people.

Check out some books by Jane Jacobs, Frakn lloyd wright, or my favorite book the art of city making by Landry
I wonder if that is why this community didn't pan out like it was expected to: Jonathan, Minnesota - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 02-21-2010, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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I wonder if that is why this community didn't pan out like it was expected to: Jonathan, Minnesota - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
seems very similar to my community of Lake Saint Louis, which was origally planned as a weekend getaway community for the City of Saint Louis.

Over time, with legal squabbles and issues taking place, it incorporated as a city to stave of annexation by the surrounding community.

Today the HOA (CA) and the City seem to have equal powers over the homes within CA boundaries. The CA controls the lakes.

I would say it is almost the perfect planned community. I would wish for a quasi or faux "downtown" area to replace the strip mall development on the east side of the lake.
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Old 02-22-2010, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Portlandia "burbs"
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Beaverton, Oregon has been criticized for this for years. Much of this is an effort to avoid raiding farmland as much as possible, although there is currently Urban Renewal in the Planning right now (personally, I think they should chuck it, because Oregon's in no economic position to entice more newcomers).

But unlike what the last poster said about HOAs, it's almost the opposite in Beaverton. They firmly keep their state and city codes separate from the private Hell of HOAs (as they should), which has caused some contention.
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Old 02-22-2010, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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I can honestly say that our HOA is not hell. Lots of great programs with little intrusion on private property rights
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