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Old 06-02-2011, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I too think Trinidad will gentrify before Anacostia which was my previous point. It just makes sense geographically due to being closer to already gentrified areas. With H street transitioning I'm sure Trinidad is soon to follow.
Do you think there's a stigma attached to living east of N. Capitol Street? I know some people who are fixated on having that "NW" at the end of their street address. Eckington, for the most part, is the same neighborhood as Bloomingdale, but the fact that the latter is in NW makes the properties a bit pricier.
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Old 06-02-2011, 07:09 PM
 
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All DC neighborhoods will eventually gentrify. Then we can do this:
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Old 06-02-2011, 10:32 PM
 
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Once people realize what a beautiful rec center Deanwood has, that mixed-used development goes up at Minn and Benning (Ray's the Steaks has already become a broad attraction), and redevelopment moves east, I don't see why the Deanwood / Minnesota Ave area would be overlooked.
seriously??
my friend used to live over by minnesota ave metro, and he wouldn't walk around there at night..
i have seen him to go buy heroin and crack in some really sketch places
good thing he is past that part of his life..
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Old 06-03-2011, 02:54 AM
 
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Barry Farm



seriously??
my friend used to live over by minnesota ave metro, and he wouldn't walk around there at night..
i have seen him to go buy heroin and crack in some really sketch places
good thing he is past that part of his life..
And? People used to do the same in Dupont Circle in the 70s-80s, Columbia Heights in the 90s-00s. Neighborhoods change, and often very quickly once they do, for better and/or worse. I was just pointing out that, with new businesses / government offices already moving in, the planned developments in that area, and redevelopment already not far over the bridge, I don't think that area will never gentrify. More likely than other areas further removed.

I've heard Barry Farm might not exist much longer as straight public housing. I could be wrong on that.

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Old 06-03-2011, 04:50 AM
 
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And? People used to do the same in Dupont Circle in the 70s-80s, Columbia Heights in the 90s-00s. Neighborhoods change, and often very quickly once they do, for better and/or worse. I was just pointing out that, with new businesses / government offices already moving in, the planned developments in that area, and redevelopment already not far over the bridge, I don't think that area will never gentrify. More likely than other areas further removed.

I've heard Barry Farm might not exist much longer as straight public housing. I could be wrong on that.
I think you exaggerate how sketchy Dupont was in the 80s and underestimate how sketchy parts of Columbia Heights remain today.
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Old 06-03-2011, 05:15 AM
 
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I think you exaggerate how sketchy Dupont was in the 80s and underestimate how sketchy parts of Columbia Heights remain today.
I didn't say anything about crime. You're going to tell me the ability to buy drugs on the street in Columbia Heights is anywhere near what it was 10-20 years ago? You just said on another thread that you came in from the suburbs and drove through Columbia Heights / Logan Circle area for the first time in a long time a couple weeks ago.

For those of us who live in this area and have been walking these streets for many years, I'm not sure you're qualified to be educating us about the evolution of the open-air drug market. It's vastly different and Minn Ave / Benning area will probably go through a similar (though not as extreme) transition to a more underground market in the near future once these mixed-use developments get built and that area becomes more of a destination for residents east of the river.
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Old 06-03-2011, 07:53 AM
 
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Do you think there's a stigma attached to living east of N. Capitol Street? I know some people who are fixated on having that "NW" at the end of their street address. Eckington, for the most part, is the same neighborhood as Bloomingdale, but the fact that the latter is in NW makes the properties a bit pricier.
What do I think? Well I think that yeah there's still somewhat of a stigma but just look at Capitol Hill that's all NE and SE addresses and its an awesome area especially around Union Station and Eastern Market. So I think the idea that only NW is desireable is starting to shed away. However I'm not sure you'll find moving into Eckington anytime soon but Capitol Hill is neighborhood that I'd seriously consider moving into. My time in Bloomingdale has been brief but I thought it was nicer. Eckington made me nervous despite the beautiful rowhouses. Now is that because of the NE address not too sure because as mentioned I'm on the Hill like every weekend which is also NE.
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Old 06-03-2011, 08:01 AM
 
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I didn't say anything about crime. You're going to tell me the ability to buy drugs on the street in Columbia Heights is anywhere near what it was 10-20 years ago? You just said on another thread that you came in from the suburbs and drove through Columbia Heights / Logan Circle area for the first time in a long time a couple weeks ago.

For those of us who live in this area and have been walking these streets for many years, I'm not sure you're qualified to be educating us about the evolution of the open-air drug market. It's vastly different and Minn Ave / Benning area will probably go through a similar (though not as extreme) transition to a more underground market in the near future once these mixed-use developments get built and that area becomes more of a destination for residents east of the river.
Well to be fair there are parts of Columbia Heights that are sketchy. I know several people in Columbia Heights but unless I'm right on 14th street where things are I'm always a little careful when walking to and from my truck. Now I'm so nervous that I will refuse to visit them but I'm just a little extra careful about my surroundings. Logan Circle is perfectly fine. Shaw and Mt Vernon I'm a again a little more careful particularly if I didn't drive into the city.
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Old 06-03-2011, 08:16 AM
 
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Well to be fair there are parts of Columbia Heights that are sketchy. I know several people in Columbia Heights but unless I'm right on 14th street where things are I'm always a little careful when walking to and from my truck. Now I'm so nervous that I will refuse to visit them but I'm just a little extra careful about my surroundings. Logan Circle is perfectly fine. Shaw and Mt Vernon I'm a again a little more careful particularly if I didn't drive into the city.
I never said there aren't sketchy parts of CH. I don't know why people keep saying that. I was just talking about how there used to be a flourishing open-air drug market there and now there isn't.
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Old 06-03-2011, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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What do I think? Well I think that yeah there's still somewhat of a stigma but just look at Capitol Hill that's all NE and SE addresses and its an awesome area especially around Union Station and Eastern Market. So I think the idea that only NW is desireable is starting to shed away. However I'm not sure you'll find moving into Eckington anytime soon but Capitol Hill is neighborhood that I'd seriously consider moving into. My time in Bloomingdale has been brief but I thought it was nicer. Eckington made me nervous despite the beautiful rowhouses. Now is that because of the NE address not too sure because as mentioned I'm on the Hill like every weekend which is also NE.
I think Eckington will turn over pretty quickly. They're building new condos right next to the FedEx building and they have luxury condos going up at the corner of 4th and Rhode Island. There's a lot of the hood element that still needs to be eliminated in that neighborhood, but I think there's been so much money invested into it that they'll "will" Eckington into a gentrified area. For now, though, the area south of McKinley Tech seems to be fine. Lincoln Road and the area north of McKinley? Eh.
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