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Alexandria is (was) a great little town. King St. used to have quite a few bars with life music: the Wharf, 219 Club, Henry Africa, the Warehouse, Tiffany Tavern, 101 Royal, etc. Not so much anymore though. The rich snooty Oldie Towners make it hard on the music scene. I guess they don't like the club crowd barfing on the front stoops of their little dinky million dollar town houses. Still a good town though.
I'm going to guess you don't know much about Northern Virginia.
One could easily say all of DC was "stiff and artificial" if all you visited was Georgetown, Foggy Bottom, and Dupont Circle. One could say all of Maryland was stiff if all you visited was Rockville, Bethesda, and National Harbor.
Most people aren't that ignorant to generalize those entire jurisdictions though.
P.S. I thought this map of the local urban census tracts was interesting and timely for those who don't think Arlington is urban: https://www.flickr.com/photos/thecourtyard/19323916463/. (Not that I'm saying every part of Arlington is as urban as say U street/Adams Morgan, etc like some like to suggest).
Some of the zip codes are pretty arguable though. My parents' census tract in Kingstowne is urban? Really??
Seriously does it get more artificial and stiff than Bethesda?
With all those beautiful SFHs and mansions out in the zigzagging residential streets, I don't know if I'd call all of Bethesda "artificial", though it can indeed get stiff particularly due to the old money element. Their downtown is nice but I personally prefer Silver Spring's two downtowns.
I'm going to guess you don't know much about Northern Virginia.
One could easily say all of DC was "stiff and artificial" if all you visited was Georgetown, Foggy Bottom, and Dupont Circle. One could say all of Maryland was stiff if all you visited was Rockville, Bethesda, and National Harbor.
Most people aren't that ignorant to generalize those entire jurisdictions though.
P.S. I thought this map of the local urban census tracts was interesting and timely for those who don't think Arlington is urban: https://www.flickr.com/photos/thecourtyard/19323916463/. (Not that I'm saying every part of Arlington is as urban as say U street/Adams Morgan, etc like some like to suggest).
Some of the zip codes are pretty arguable though. My parents' census tract in Kingstowne is urban? Really??
I think the people who made this map are using a different standard. They are considering places like Rockville urban. Rockville is full blown suburban as far as I'm concerned. Rockville has a few blocks of tall buildings near two of their metro stations, but that isn't enough to be "urban" IMO. If that's the case.. then almost every town in the U.S. is "urban" lol.
I think the people who made this map are using a different standard. They are considering places like Rockville urban. Rockville is full blown suburban as far as I'm concerned. Rockville has a few blocks of tall buildings near two of their metro stations, but that isn't enough to be "urban" IMO. If that's the case.. then almost every town in the U.S. is "urban" lol.
This map does not help your argument at all.
I'm not really using this map to "prove" the Rosslyn-Ballston corridor or Crystal City/Pentagon City is urban. It should be pretty obvious that it's urban. I've been to every state of the Mississippi save Michigan and Wisconsin. The R-B and CC/PC corridors are more urban that numerous mid size and even some big cities. More people probably walk, bike, and use transit in Arlington in a day than probably the population of Dallas does in a year, for example (exaggeration I know, but I swear I might have seen 1 person walking the whole time I was in downtown Dallas). Charlotte and Atlanta are pretty similar too. Arlington is not as urban as DC, obviously, but that doesn't mean it's not urban at all.
Yes, obviously the map exaggerates some areas as "urban" but the same can be said of some of the neighborhoods in DC. Obviously every census tract in Arlington isn't urban just as every urban tract in DC isn't urban.
It doesn't affect me personally but if I had kids, I would definitely not live in DC. You'd think with a tax base as wealthy as DC's, they'd be able to have a semi-competent government?
It doesn't affect me personally but if I had kids, I would definitely not live in DC. You'd think with a tax base as wealthy as DC's, they'd be able to have a semi-competent government?
Competent government, good school, rich cultural environment, parks, museums, transportation. The entire package. Kids thrive here.
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