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Old 02-13-2014, 09:13 AM
 
Location: DC
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People who think DC is not way past the issue of residential segregation must never have been to any of the neighborhoods up 16th Street.
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Old 02-13-2014, 06:47 PM
 
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People who think DC is not way past the issue of residential segregation must never have been to any of the neighborhoods up 16th Street.
DC is extremely residentially and socially segregated. Gentrification has made some DC neighborhoods more diverse, but NW west of 13th Street is very white and east of 13th is very black. This is not up for dispute. Bay Area cities like Oakland are infinitely more integrated residentially and socially than DC ever will be. There is no unity amongst minorities in DC like Northern California. You might have rare instances of blacks and Salvodoreans getting along in places like the Georgia Ave corridor, but thats about it. DC, proper, is not an immigration hub like the Bay Area or NYC. Because of that DC is very black and white, rich and poor. Division and inequality along stark easily defined racial and economic lines is what makes DC what it is. Where are all the racially ambiguous mixed race people, interesting folks who dress wild and crazy and diverse interracial places in DC? You really don't even see that many lighter skinned black folks in DC unlike NYC and Philly.
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Old 02-13-2014, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Prince George's County, Maryland
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DC is extremely residentially and socially segregated. Gentrification has made some DC neighborhoods more diverse, but NW west of 13th Street is very white and east of 13th is very black. This is not up for dispute. Bay Area cities like Oakland are infinitely more integrated residentially and socially than DC ever will be. There is no unity amongst minorities in DC like Northern California. You might have rare instances of blacks and Salvodoreans getting along in places like the Georgia Ave corridor, but thats about it. DC, proper, is not an immigration hub like the Bay Area or NYC. Because of that DC is very black and white, rich and poor. Division and inequality along stark easily defined racial and economic lines is what makes DC what it is. Where are all the racially ambiguous mixed race people, interesting folks who dress wild and crazy and diverse interracial places in DC? You really don't even see that many lighter skinned black folks in DC unlike NYC and Philly.
One of my close friends is a light-skinned black Washingtonian. But granted, she and her family currently live in Landover.
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Old 02-13-2014, 07:50 PM
 
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DC is extremely residentially and socially segregated. Gentrification has made some DC neighborhoods more diverse, but NW west of 13th Street is very white and east of 13th is very black. This is not up for dispute. Bay Area cities like Oakland are infinitely more integrated residentially and socially than DC ever will be. There is no unity amongst minorities in DC like Northern California. You might have rare instances of blacks and Salvodoreans getting along in places like the Georgia Ave corridor, but thats about it. DC, proper, is not an immigration hub like the Bay Area or NYC. Because of that DC is very black and white, rich and poor. Division and inequality along stark easily defined racial and economic lines is what makes DC what it is. Where are all the racially ambiguous mixed race people, interesting folks who dress wild and crazy and diverse interracial places in DC? You really don't even see that many lighter skinned black folks in DC unlike NYC and Philly.
If you're lucky, outside the beltway MoCo and NoVA. But even in those places, transplants from the Northeast and Midwest, and DC/Arlington/Bethesda yuppies who are ready to settle down, are moving out there as well, carrying their covert racist ways with them and slowly but surely making any sign of cordial race relations disappear. It's a damn shame for DC when you have to go to Prince William, Loudoun, and Howard (which is technically the Baltimore Area) to find some decent racial integration. I would say outer beltway parts of Montgomery and Fairfax as the other racially integrated spots, but those places tend to be the top spots for transplants and yuppies who desire the "90% white 10% anything-but-black" communities.
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Old 02-14-2014, 06:52 AM
 
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If you're lucky, outside the beltway MoCo and NoVA. But even in those places, transplants from the Northeast and Midwest, and DC/Arlington/Bethesda yuppies who are ready to settle down, are moving out there as well, carrying their covert racist ways with them and slowly but surely making any sign of cordial race relations disappear. It's a damn shame for DC when you have to go to Prince William, Loudoun, and Howard (which is technically the Baltimore Area) to find some decent racial integration. I would say outer beltway parts of Montgomery and Fairfax as the other racially integrated spots, but those places tend to be the top spots for transplants and yuppies who desire the "90% white 10% anything-but-black" communities.
I'm astounded at the ignorance about race relations on this board.

In my neighborhood alone the mix is:
  • American Indian 6
  • Asian 367
  • Black 1,026
  • Hawaiian 0
  • Hispanic 149
  • Some Other Race 59
  • White 916

Most other neighborhoods up 16th street have comparable statistics.
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Old 02-14-2014, 09:01 AM
 
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I'm astounded at the ignorance about race relations on this board.

In my neighborhood alone the mix is:
  • American Indian 6
  • Asian 367
  • Black 1,026
  • Hawaiian 0
  • Hispanic 149
  • Some Other Race 59
  • White 916

Most other neighborhoods up 16th street have comparable statistics.
Surface diversity and genuine integration are two different things. You're referring tithe former while I'm referring to the latter.
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Old 02-14-2014, 09:04 AM
 
Location: DC
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Surface diversity and genuine integration are two different things. You're referring tithe former while I'm referring to the latter.
No you're race baiting and I'm pointing out the reality of the neighborhood in which I live. Segregation in DC is economic not race.
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Old 02-14-2014, 12:20 PM
 
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We are thinking of a possible move to the DC area, currently in Silicon Valley. Husband would be working in Vienna, VA.

Do any areas exist that are very liberal, laid-back, earthy (not hippie)- think holistic, green, etc.?? But also modern and sophisticated at the same time?

We both grew up in the midwest and really don't want to return to ultra conservative environment, in clothes, politics, religion, etc., etc., etc...
There's nothing "green" about DC. Being able to say you can "walk to Walgreens" isn't exactly a grand proclamation of living the "earthy" lifestyle. DC is a concrete jungle, few green spaces in the city proper, and full of cars. The ideology might be "green," but the lifestyle sure isn't. And if you beg hard enough, you might get a "plastic bag tax" heaved upon you. Liberals here like to talk the big talk, but policy talk and taxes are about as "green" as you're gonna get.
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Old 02-14-2014, 01:09 PM
 
Location: DC
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There's nothing "green" about DC. Being able to say you can "walk to Walgreens" isn't exactly a grand proclamation of living the "earthy" lifestyle. DC is a concrete jungle, few green spaces in the city proper, and full of cars. The ideology might be "green," but the lifestyle sure isn't. And if you beg hard enough, you might get a "plastic bag tax" heaved upon you. Liberals here like to talk the big talk, but policy talk and taxes are about as "green" as you're gonna get.
DC has one of the largest system of parks in the United States, much more than the OP will be used to in California. The OP may never been in an urban park of almost 2000 acres. As I look out my front window I see a fox playing in the snow and the deer are decimating my shrubs once again. The city has an aggressive program of promoting rooftop solar. I have a friend who is getting a 4 year payback on a 5kW system up on Capitol Hill. The city gave me two rain barrels and a tree to reduce my storm water runoff. We have the second most utilized public transportation system in the country. We do have neighbors who get very jealous of DC's success. They haunt our message boards.
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Old 02-14-2014, 08:47 PM
 
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We both grew up in the midwest and really don't want to return to ultra conservative environment, in clothes, politics, religion, etc., etc., etc...
Wait a minute...............
Did anyone even read this line???
Forget about how "green" DC is when you're dealing with an ultra bland cookie-cutter environment.
DC screams nothing but ultra conservative rigidness and work till you drop lifestyles.
Go to NYC if you want to meet liberals because you certainly won't find unique personalities in DC
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