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Used to Toronto's winters, I'd be able to handle Seoul's winters (even though I'd not prefer to), and the hotter summer is a bonus.
Depending on how well-insulated the buildings are, I don't know how cool I'd be in Melbourne summers, but Melbourne seems more suitable for outdoor activity year-round.
If the choice was between an American continental climate and Melbourne, I might go with the American one. Half of the benefit of a continental climate is the sunshine. Instead Seoul is slightly cloudier than Melbourne, and worse, most of the cloudiness is concentrated in the summer.
12 inches of rain in one month?! I like rain but that is too much. And a low of 71-72°F suggests rather sticky conditions. Decent for tropics. Not so much for temperate places. NYC has a similar average but much better weather.
Seoul has 5 months of the year colder than Melbourne's coldest month of July.
No thanks.
Melbourne's July's not really that cold for a "winter" though is it.
As a good summer lover I can quite put up with winter three months colder than Buxton's average to have a summer way better than what Melbourne can offer. on a consistent basis.
Massachusetts was the 3rd warmest on record. Definitely felt like it! Interesting that it wasn't true of much of the southern and western parts of the country. One of the stranger weather years I can remember.
Melbourne's July is cold enough to suck, to feel like winter compared to 80% of the rest of Australia and to kill off subtropical palm species.
London's winters can't kill off subtropical palms so I'm not sure how Melbourne's can, considering your coldest month is about 4C warmer than London's.
London's winters can't kill off subtropical palms so I'm not sure how Melbourne's can, considering your coldest month is about 4C warmer than London's.
Depends which species he's referring to. I imagine the 40+ C days that can occur during summer in Melbourne would be more of a problem than the occasional cold nights (2 - 3 C) which can occur even in Brisbane.
Depends which species he's referring to. I imagine the 40+ C days that can occur during summer in Melbourne would be more of a problem than the occasional cold nights (2 - 3 C) which can occur even in Brisbane.
Melbourne's climate should support many species of sub-tropical palms, but you don't see many there and the ones that you do look a bit tired. The winters while not freezing, might be just a bit too cool for a bit too long, or the summers are not warm enough to let the plants re-juvinate after the dead of winter.
There are plenty of subtropical palms here in Mildura which seem to be doing well, far more than in Melbourne, but winter nights can get cold with a handful every winter that manage to drop below 0C. Days however are around 15-20C for the most part. Our winters are much shorter than in Melbourne and we get far more sunshine aswell, so maybe that helps certain palms here, despite the colder winter nights?
Melbourne has plenty of palm trees at least from what I saw when I was there. I'm sure locals there can corroborate the fact that Canary Island Date Palms in particular are plentiful. There are also plenty of Norfolk Island Pines which are subtropical species that seem to do well there too.
Any palm that can live in coastal California (there are many that can) should have no problem whatsoever in Melbourne.
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