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Not a good picture at all but there's a variety of Palms here, I was tempted to get one lol. I can't really tell what most of them are since they're all jumbled together. I'm so glad Palms are slowly becoming part of the vegetation around here, there's a few species that can go unprotected, I saw a Windmill palm in like February with small brown tips on the leaves but I saw it again the other day and it looks a foot taller and more vibrant.
Some of those palms look like they wouldn't survive in the NYC area in winter without some massive protection.... maybe they're houseplants. Certainly Needle Palm, Windmill Palm and Sabal minor palms could survive in NYC though.
Some of those palms look like they wouldn't survive in the NYC area in winter without some massive protection.... maybe they're houseplants. Certainly Needle Palm, Windmill Palm and Sabal minor palms could survive in NYC though.
I semi-agree with you but NYC really isn't as cold as most people think, especially the coastal areas, the Jersey Shore, & Long Island. I researched a variety of Palms and I think even the Sabal Palmetto could take NYC, with some protection when it's young. I actually saw a small Canary Island Date Palm in like April, the leaves were this pretty lime green color. However I think Windmill palms are perfect for this Northern boundary Cfa climate, they've actually proven themselves here and places colder, they're becoming increasingly common. The others can survive here but they'd be more suitable for something like a garden where they can receive proper care as opposed to being left alone for months at a time.
I don't think palms would need "massive protection" in a borderline 7b/8a area lol, places like Albuquerque (zone 7) have a lot of Palm trees iirc. Maybe some protection but not massive protection.
True enough.. here in Vancouver we're zone 7b/8a like NYC but our summers are pitiful and are the limiting factor here for growing palms as much as our winters are... Windmill palms do well here but Needle Palm, Sabal Palmetto and other heat loving palms can't be grown here because our summers are too cool. Canary Island Date Palms can't survive unprotected here for very long.
I took this last month in SE Queens, NYC (40 N, zone 7b/8a):
Not a good picture at all but there's a variety of Palms here, I was tempted to get one lol. I can't really tell what most of them are since they're all jumbled together. I'm so glad Palms are slowly becoming part of the vegetation around here, there's a few species that can go unprotected, I saw a Windmill palm in like February with small brown tips on the leaves but I saw it again the other day and it looks a foot taller and more vibrant.
Wow, where is this in southeast Queens? Do they still have them? What's the name of the place? I would kill to get a really big one for the patio - lol.
Wow, where is this in southeast Queens? Do they still have them? What's the name of the place? I would kill to get a really big one for the patio - lol.
It's literally right over the Queens/Nassau border on the corner of Sunrise Highway & Hook Creek Blvd, the last light before you leave NYC. It's a in a parking lot of an old beeper store (I think they sell cell phones now lol), it's weird shaped orange building. I think the sign said the sale ended on June 27th but they were still there the last time I passed it (like 3-4 days ago). There were a lot but they were going fast, less and less each time. The last time I passed it they had less than in that picture.
True enough.. here in Vancouver we're zone 7b/8a like NYC but our summers are pitiful and are the limiting factor here for growing palms as much as our winters are... Windmill palms do well here but Needle Palm, Sabal Palmetto and other heat loving palms can't be grown here because our summers are too cool. Canary Island Date Palms can't survive unprotected here for very long.
Your summers are warmer (and sunnier) than Christchurch and other places here where Canariensii grow. I hear you really need to be in zone 9 for them to survive unprotected, so I'd say your winters are the problem.
You might want to consider trying to grow a Canariensis with the aid of an electric root warmer or something.
Your summers are warmer (and sunnier) than Christchurch and other places here where Canariensii grow. I hear you really need to be in zone 9 for them to survive unprotected, so I'd say your winters are the problem.
You might want to consider trying to grow a Canariensis with the aid of an electric root warmer or something.
True... in the case of Phoenix Canariensis, it is the winters that are the problem here as they don't require much heat in summer. There were some people trying to grow a few on the Gulf Islands just off shore (zone 8b) but I think they only lasted about 3-4 years unprotected before they succumbed to the cold. It's too bad as they are my favourite palm by far. I even like them more than tropical palms like the Coconut palm and Areca palm. There is just something about a full grown P. Canariensis that is so majestic. I might try and grow one in my yard and could probably protect it when it's young but once it gets bigger than a certain size, I don't think I could protect it anymore and it probably would succumb to the elements.
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