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New Zeland seems to be mild and not extreme in any way. Plus, not as cold as Russia or Canada, assuming you dislike the cold.
Maybe new Zeland can be accused of being boring, but i dont think it deserves and F: not from the heat lovers or from the cold lovers.
It's the lack of sunshine and lack of hot summer temperatures that bother me. I lived in that type of climate (in the Pacific NW) and don't like it at all. But in fairness I should probably promote New Zealand to a generic D (average) climate because of the milder temperatures in the north and the fact that there are some rain shadow areas in the southeast. And that's the rating I usually give temperate marine climates unless they have excessive rainfall.
It's the excessive cloudiness, lack of sunshine, and lack of hot summers that bother me. I lived in that type of climate (in the Pacific NW) and don't like it at all. But in fairness I could promote New Zealand to a generic D climate because of the milder climate (in terms of temperature) in the north and the fact that there are some rain shadow areas in the south.
You clearly don't understand the climatic ranges within New Zealand, typical of people who don't live here. The "excessive cloudiness" includes areas with almost 60% of possible sunshine in the Nelson & Marlborough regions. That's a lot more than the amounts regarded as "characteristic" of the PNW towns {Portland 48%, Seattle-C.O. 43%, Seattle-Tacoma 47%}.
I find it hard to believe anyone would give London an F, either. What about Sochi in Russia? It's so easy to generalise if you don't know enough about a country's climate.
That's why I said "the closest for me". Sochi doesn't sound bad (although wet for my taste) and there is a decent climate in Canada (around Osyoos). London is more a D climate for me (although again those places I listed would be "closest to an F").
You clearly don't understand the climatic ranges within New Zealand, typical of people who don't live here. The "excessive cloudiness" includes areas with almost 60% of possible sunshine in the Nelson & Marlborough regions. That's a lot more than the amounts regarded as "characteristic" of the PNW towns {Portland 48%, Seattle-C.O. 43%, Seattle-Tacoma 47%}.
You clearly don't understand the climatic ranges within New Zealand, typical of people who don't live here. The "excessive cloudiness" includes areas with almost 60% of possible sunshine in the Nelson & Marlborough regions. That's a lot more than the amounts regarded as "characteristic" of the PNW towns {Portland 48%, Seattle-C.O. 43%, Seattle-Tacoma 47%}.
Not true. I'm well aware of the effect that mountains have on precipitation patterns in temperate marine climates. And I've been to both islands in NZ (Nelson is a great place). I also know (from personal experience) that it is very hard to escape cloudiness in the winter in those types of climates. There are similar variations in the PNW (actually more extreme) but again in the winter it's more a case of overcast versus rain then anything else. This is typical in the PNW in the winter:
Olympia (60+ inches per year) - heavy rain
Seattle (36" per year) - moderate rain
Whidbey Island (18" per year) - light rain
Sequim (12 inches per year) - overcast
Wenachtee (8 inches per year) - high, continuous cloud cover
Finding sunny conditions in a drier microclimate in the winter in these climates during a typical winter storm is a rare occurrence (and in these areas, winter storms are continuous). Now outside of the winter months it's more likely, but a place like Nelson is still not going to have hot summers because of the heavy marine influence.
Not true. I'm well aware of the effect that mountains have on precipitation patterns in temperate marine climates. And I've been to both islands in NZ (Nelson is a great place). I also know (from personal experience) that it is very hard to escape cloudiness in the winter in those types of climates. There are similar variations in the PNW (actually more extreme) but again in the winter it's more a case of overcast versus rain then anything else. This is typical in the PNW in the winter:
Olympia (60+ inches per year) - heavy rain
Seattle (36" per year) - moderate rain
Whidbey Island (18" per year) - light rain
Sequim (12 inches per year) - overcast
Wenachtee (8 inches per year) - high, continuous cloud cover
Finding sunny conditions in a drier microclimate in the winter in these climates during a typical winter storm is a rare occurrence (and in these areas, winter storms are continuous). Now outside of the winter months it's more likely, but a place like Nelson is still not going to have hot summers because of the heavy marine influence.
Winter cloudiness in Nelson & Blenheim is scarcely more than in summer & early autumn. The cloudiest period in both is late spring, but the range over the seasons is only a few percent. The wettest month at Blenheim averages only 66mm.
Not true. I'm well aware of the effect that mountains have on precipitation patterns in temperate marine climates. And I've been to both islands in NZ (Nelson is a great place). I also know (from personal experience) that it is very hard to escape cloudiness in the winter in those types of climates. There are similar variations in the PNW (actually more extreme) but again in the winter it's more a case of overcast versus rain then anything else. This is typical in the PNW in the winter:
Olympia (60+ inches per year) - heavy rain
Seattle (36" per year) - moderate rain
Whidbey Island (18" per year) - light rain
Sequim (12 inches per year) - overcast
Wenachtee (8 inches per year) - high, continuous cloud cover
Finding sunny conditions in a drier microclimate in the winter in these climates during a typical winter storm is a rare occurrence (and in these areas, winter storms are continuous). Now outside of the winter months it's more likely, but a place like Nelson is still not going to have hot summers because of the heavy marine influence.
Annual distribution of sunshine like the PNW experiences is totally absent in this area and most of NZ. Extended wet/cloudy or sunny spells can happen at any time of the year. It's a fundamental difference between the NZ and PNW marine climates.
Winter/spring rainfall is higher, but not at any great cost to sunshine percentages.
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