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View Poll Results: Which city has overall better climate?
New York City, USA 80 62.99%
London, UK 47 37.01%
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Old 05-13-2013, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Wellington and North of South
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On a % basis NY would beat London easily for sunshine every month of the year.

The 1981-2010 averages for Kew Gardens (1653.3 hrs/year, better than most of the London region) give the following percentages of possible, making an allowance of 30 mins/day for likely unrecordable sunshine (JFM ... annual) :

23.7 29.6 33.5 43.5 44.5 43.0 45.8 48.8 40.2 36.8 27.4 20.8 38.5

If you take cited percentages for New York and reduce each value by 10% the rough results are:

46 50 51 52 55 58 60 58 56 55 47 44 53

 
Old 05-13-2013, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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On a % basis NY would beat London easily for sunshine every month of the year.

The 1981-2010 averages for Kew Gardens (1653.3 hrs/year, better than most of the London region) give the following percentages of possible, making an allowance of 30 mins/day for likely unrecordable sunshine (JFM ... annual) :

23.7 29.6 33.5 43.5 44.5 43.0 45.8 48.8 40.2 36.8 27.4 20.8 38.5

If you take cited percentages for New York and reduce each value by 10% the rough results are:

46 50 51 52 55 58 60 58 56 55 47 44 53
Never cracks fifty %, meaning the majority of the time in summer is cloudy.

No wonder so many British are sun starved, lol. My friend from Liverpool will lay by a pool or on the beach for hours every day in the warm season here. Mind you he never gets as tan as most Americans around these parts(not sure why). Then his family visits and it is all they want to do as well.

I assume it is the same the world over for vacationing British, and definitely a reputation they have.
 
Old 05-13-2013, 11:54 PM
 
Location: York
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NYC is certainly noticeably sunnier and hotter during Summer. Nobody can argue with that. NYC is similar to some of the Spanish destinations that millions of British visit every year to get some sun!
Saying that, I never felt NYC was that Sunny compared to the Med, even though sunshine hours are similar.

I'd like to know the percentages of some of our South coast towns, they average around 1900 hours per year, and Jersey averages around 2000.
 
Old 05-14-2013, 02:07 AM
 
Location: Wellington and North of South
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NYC is certainly noticeably sunnier and hotter during Summer. Nobody can argue with that. NYC is similar to some of the Spanish destinations that millions of British visit every year to get some sun!
Saying that, I never felt NYC was that Sunny compared to the Med, even though sunshine hours are similar.

I'd like to know the percentages of some of our South coast towns, they average around 1900 hours per year, and Jersey averages around 2000.
I did some calculations for Bognor (1920.8 p.a. for 1981-2010) and got these % values:

30.3 35.3 37.2 49.7 50.2 49.9 52.6 54.5 47.7 41.6 34.7 28.4 44.7

Shanklin (1923.0) is similar but slightly sunnier in summer, so I will do a calculation for there later.

On checking I found I was using a slightly inaccurate latitude for London, but the result for Kew was not changed much: extreme range 21.5 (Dec) to 48.4 (Aug).

Jersey shows an average of 1905, the highest of the 3 channel sites given in the tables.
 
Old 05-14-2013, 03:08 AM
 
Location: York
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Thanks for that. I used to live on the South coast and it's certainly better weather than London, if only a bit cooler during summer which I can live with as it does get hot at times.
 
Old 05-14-2013, 03:27 AM
 
Location: Wellington and North of South
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For Shanklin, the % values range from 25.7 to 55.5.
 
Old 05-14-2013, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Aberdeen, UK
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New York is a lot better all year round especially in winter. Summers in New York are too hot and humid but still preferable to London because of the higher sunshine. Mediterranean summers would be much preferable to either though.
 
Old 05-20-2013, 02:33 AM
 
Location: London
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New Yorkers, it's time to move to London

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Old 05-21-2013, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Eastern Sydney, Australia
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London for it's cloudy weather and NY higher rainfall. Also I've found NY much more humid than London especially when the sun "blares" out.
 
Old 05-21-2013, 03:23 PM
 
Location: USA East Coast
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London for it's cloudy weather and NY higher rainfall. Also I've found NY much more humid than London especially when the sun "blares" out.
I think your getting dew point and humidity confused....and seasonally when each city sees them.

NY would definitely feel more humid in summer because the summer air masses often come from the south (the tropics), so humidity and esp dew points are much higher in NYC (London is way too far north to often see tropical air advected that far north.).

However, London is FAR more humid from Nov through April (like half the year) as the air masses that pass over London come from the high latitude cool and damp Atlantic. In NYC, the air mass direction comes from the west or north in fall/winter/spring much of time...and passes over LAND before it ever reaches NYC. These air masses are often dry (this is why NYC is so much sunnier than London in fall/winter/spring).

I've been in London and NYC in fall/winter/spring...London is far more humid and damp trust me
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