Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Weather
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 01-23-2014, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Segovia, central Spain, 1230 m asl, Csb Mediterranean with strong continental influence, 40º43 N
3,094 posts, read 3,576,675 times
Reputation: 1036

Advertisements

Below freezing, especially if is accompanied also by calm weather.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 01-23-2014, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Northville, MI
11,879 posts, read 14,211,423 times
Reputation: 6381
Overcast and below freezing every single day for 2 months .
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-23-2014, 09:04 AM
 
100 posts, read 108,302 times
Reputation: 49
Here's a scenario...

lets say you wake up in the morning and want to take a quick drive down to the shops to buy a few things and some beer.

In 90F, this would be a very simple task, simply slap on a shirt and shorts (takes all of 1 minute), grab ya keys and start ya car up.

In 0F, you will have to find appropriate clothing and then layer them on. Then you try to start your car, but the bloody thing won't turn over. After 5 tries, you get her started, but have to wait 5 minutes for the engine to warm up. You might then have to shovel a crapload of snow out of the way. If you have steep icy driveway, then good luck with that ****, it's another several minutes to apply the snow chains (or winter tires, which is another chore that is unnecessary in the 90F scenario). Then you deal with icy roads, maintaining a low speed and a sharp, nervous grip on the wheel just incase you hit a patch of ice, and there is the chance that there will be unplowed roads and/or parking spots on the way/at your destination. If you do make it to the shops, you then have to peel off all your layers as the temp inside is comparatively boiling. Once you checkout, it's back on with the layers, hoping your car will start then slowly struggling home to avoid skidding on the invisible ice patches.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-23-2014, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Buxton UK
4,965 posts, read 5,690,601 times
Reputation: 2383
90 is easy. Done it in a sweater.

Freezing is far more dangerous.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-23-2014, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities
5,831 posts, read 7,713,325 times
Reputation: 8867
Quote:
Originally Posted by BBQ King View Post
Here's a scenario...

lets say you wake up in the morning and want to take a quick drive down to the shops to buy a few things and some beer.

In 90F, this would be a very simple task, simply slap on a shirt and shorts (takes all of 1 minute), grab ya keys and start ya car up.

In 0F, you will have to find appropriate clothing and then layer them on. Then you try to start your car, but the bloody thing won't turn over. After 5 tries, you get her started, but have to wait 5 minutes for the engine to warm up. You might then have to shovel a crapload of snow out of the way. If you have steep icy driveway, then good luck with that ****, it's another several minutes to apply the snow chains (or winter tires, which is another chore that is unnecessary in the 90F scenario). Then you deal with icy roads, maintaining a low speed and a sharp, nervous grip on the wheel just incase you hit a patch of ice, and there is the chance that there will be unplowed roads and/or parking spots on the way/at your destination. If you do make it to the shops, you then have to peel off all your layers as the temp inside is comparatively boiling. Once you checkout, it's back on with the layers, hoping your car will start then slowly struggling home to avoid skidding on the invisible ice patches.
If you really think this is what life in the winter is like, you must not live in a cold weather state.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-23-2014, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Anne Arundel County, MD
1,004 posts, read 1,161,616 times
Reputation: 253
Quote:
Originally Posted by MeteoMan View Post
90 is easy. Done it in a sweater.

Freezing is far more dangerous.
I start to sweat in a sweater at 10C...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-23-2014, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Kalamalka Lake, B.C.
3,563 posts, read 5,378,490 times
Reputation: 4975
Above 90f

I asked my dad why he ended up in California: He'd rather change a bulldozer starter in above 90f than below -"whatever" in a high wind.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-23-2014, 12:49 PM
 
558 posts, read 1,121,066 times
Reputation: 1051
My dream is to live in Death Valley, so there's my answer.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-23-2014, 01:12 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
14,497 posts, read 9,435,900 times
Reputation: 5251
Quote:
Originally Posted by BBQ King View Post
Here's a scenario...

lets say you wake up in the morning and want to take a quick drive down to the shops to buy a few things and some beer.

In 90F, this would be a very simple task, simply slap on a shirt and shorts (takes all of 1 minute), grab ya keys and start ya car up.

In 0F, you will have to find appropriate clothing and then layer them on. Then you try to start your car, but the bloody thing won't turn over. After 5 tries, you get her started, but have to wait 5 minutes for the engine to warm up. You might then have to shovel a crapload of snow out of the way. If you have steep icy driveway, then good luck with that ****, it's another several minutes to apply the snow chains (or winter tires, which is another chore that is unnecessary in the 90F scenario). Then you deal with icy roads, maintaining a low speed and a sharp, nervous grip on the wheel just incase you hit a patch of ice, and there is the chance that there will be unplowed roads and/or parking spots on the way/at your destination. If you do make it to the shops, you then have to peel off all your layers as the temp inside is comparatively boiling. Once you checkout, it's back on with the layers, hoping your car will start then slowly struggling home to avoid skidding on the invisible ice patches.
It got below 0F here last night and I had to go to work early. Car started fine, but it didn't sound like it was happy about it, lol. I didn't really have to layer up and you wouldn't in this scenario since the amount of layering up you should do is proportional to how long you'll be outside. Main roads here are fine, for the most part, but side roads are a problem. I had to drive about a quarter mile on mostly ice and snow covered roads to get to the main road. Still, it's no big deal, really, if you're careful. I do not have snow tires or 4WD. In the 90 degree scenario, you didn't mention that if it's sunny (or even if it isn't), you will be stepping into an oven when you go into your car. The ice box this morning was more tolerable, although I needed to keep my gloves on for the time I spent idling the car to warm it up. You can drive when the engine's still cold, though. It'll warm up faster that way anyway.

Not saying winter driving isn't worse than summer driving, but it's not as bad as you make it out to be. You actually didn't mention the worst part of it: the windows fogging up, especially the side ones, and having to keep fiddling with the heat/AC, defroster, and when that fails, roll down the windows as needed. I rolled them down a few times to see clearly to make turns.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-23-2014, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Lexington, KY
12,278 posts, read 9,456,014 times
Reputation: 2763
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenfield View Post
If you really think this is what life in the winter is like, you must not live in a cold weather state.
I experienced all these things today why do you dispute it?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Weather

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:17 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top