Snowiest place in the world. (cities, cloud, comparison, map)
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I'm pretty close to the gorge(probably about 90 minute to 2 hour drive depending on traffic). So that 35 mile span is from what destination to what destination? It appears the 15 inches what be in the The Dalles but I'm a bit perplexed a about what where this 75 inch number is because you don't really start hitting those kinds of numbers until you get into well into the coast mountains which be way more than just 35 miles .
Wow that's an enormous mountain. I like the description of nearby Mt. Logan
No season is really good as the peak is very near the Gulf of Alaska so storms can blow in at anytime and many parties have spent their entire trip hunkered down in their tents. The normal climbing season is from late April to early July with the weather getting worse as the summer progresses and then turning very ugly when winter arrives Some say that the winter ascent is best but this is not for the faint of heart as it is difficult to get an air charter, the temperature is very extreme -40c down to -75c at altitude without wind-chill, the wind is severe 50-150kph and to top it off one is very far North there are only a few hours of light (2-4) in the day. So if you like very cold camping at altitude in the dark this is the place for you.
Wow that's an enormous mountain. I like the description of nearby Mt. Logan
No season is really good as the peak is very near the Gulf of Alaska so storms can blow in at anytime and many parties have spent their entire trip hunkered down in their tents. The normal climbing season is from late April to early July with the weather getting worse as the summer progresses and then turning very ugly when winter arrives Some say that the winter ascent is best but this is not for the faint of heart as it is difficult to get an air charter, the temperature is very extreme -40c down to -75c at altitude without wind-chill, the wind is severe 50-150kph and to top it off one is very far North there are only a few hours of light (2-4) in the day. So if you like very cold camping at altitude in the dark this is the place for you.
Mount Logan is certainly colder than Saint Elias but shouldn't get as much snowfall as Saint Elias. Logan is actually a bigger mountain than Saint Elias in term of total bulk. In fact other than a few stratovolcanos, I think is considered the most massive mountain in the world but it doesn't have any mountain face that has as much vertical relief as the SE face of Saint Elias.
Mount Logan is certainly colder than Saint Elias but shouldn't get as much snowfall as Saint Elias. Logan is actually a bigger mountain than Saint Elias in term of total bulk. In fact other than a few stratovolcanos, I think is considered the most massive mountain in the world but it doesn't have any mountain face that has as much vertical relief as the SE face of Saint Elias.
I think you're right.
That's a great photo you shared of Elias. Here's Fairweather.
I don't know how to make it fullsize, but clicking on it should work.
Wow that's an enormous mountain. I like the description of nearby Mt. Logan
No season is really good as the peak is very near the Gulf of Alaska so storms can blow in at anytime and many parties have spent their entire trip hunkered down in their tents. The normal climbing season is from late April to early July with the weather getting worse as the summer progresses and then turning very ugly when winter arrives Some say that the winter ascent is best but this is not for the faint of heart as it is difficult to get an air charter, the temperature is very extreme -40c down to -75c at altitude without wind-chill, the wind is severe 50-150kph and to top it off one is very far North there are only a few hours of light (2-4) in the day. So if you like very cold camping at altitude in the dark this is the place for you.
If you like big mountains check these pics out
The south face(other wise known as the Rupal face) of Nanga Parbat in Pakistan(almost 15,000 foot high mountain face).
Then if you like big mountains with heavy snow cover and Ice cliffs then its hard to match the north face of KanchenjungaI(3rd highest mountains on the border of Nepal and Sikkim,India)
Then the South face of Lhotse(on the border of Nepal and Tibet. Mount Everest is directly north of Lhotse). This would be the steepest face of them all and just might be the most difficult mountain face to climb in the world
Yes I know about this movie. I think its documentary on some people who either did or attempted to climb it and then ski down it.
Found some estimates on Mount Saint Elias snowfall which seems to be from a Climber
[i]"4) average snowfall at summit estimated 5~7m
5) mean monthly snowfall 1m~2m "
They were successful, on their second attempt. In late May, they were turned around after getting caught in a storm that came up a bit quicker than expected.
They say the storm buried them with nine feet of snow in one hour, with video of them frantically taking turns shoveling snow from their snow cave entrance, to prevent being buried alive. They were lucky to get a break in the weather after a couple days, and had to wait a month for another window of opportunity.
The film features spectacular.footage of the peak, and their incredible ski descent. They were the first in 5 years to climb it, though they start the ascent from an air taxi drop off at 10,000 ft. They indicated it was the toughest peak they'd ever climbed . Some brief images of them skiing Mt. Cook early in the film.
Here's a summary of one years' climbing efforts on Elias, indicating how heavy snows hinder efforts.
A number of expeditions entered the St. Elias Mountains via Yakutat. Eleven expeditions with 43 people climbed in Wrangell-St. Elias National Park or Glacier Bay National Park. Only four groups and ten climbers were successful. This is on a par with the average success rate in the area, caused predominately by the weather. The unpredictable and highly wet, windy, snowy conditions make difficulties. An early March expedition to Mount St. Elias was stopped by snowfall of 25 to 30 feet in a ten-day period. Another party never made it out of Yakutat because of the weather and flew south after waiting for five days. After starting on March 3, Alaskans Dave McGiven, Leo Americus and John Bauman gave up on the east ridge of St. Elias when new snow turned the climb into an exercise of survival. Englishman Dean James and Scot Alex McNab on May 22 successfully climbed St. Elias by its south ridge. A commercially guided group led by George Dunn failed to get up St. Elias by its south ridge, but all eight reached the summit of Haydon Peak. Tom Hafnor, Bobby Derry, John McKinney and Jim Chisolm hoped to climb St. Elias but the air taxi was unable to get into the area. They opted for Mount Logan instead, but weather kept them from the summit there...
They were successful, on their second attempt. In late May, they were turned around after getting caught in a storm that came up a bit quicker than expected.
They say the storm buried them with nine feet of snow in one hour, with video of them frantically taking turns shoveling snow from their snow cave entrance, to prevent being buried alive. They were lucky to get a break in the weather after a couple days, and had to wait a month for another window of opportunity.
The film features spectacular.footage of the peak, and their incredible ski descent. They were the first in 5 years to climb it, though they start the ascent from an air taxi drop off at 10,000 ft. They indicated it was the toughest peak they'd ever climbed . Some brief images of them skiing Mt. Cook early in the film.
Here's a summary of one years' climbing efforts on Elias, indicating how heavy snows hinder efforts.
A number of expeditions entered the St. Elias Mountains via Yakutat. Eleven expeditions with 43 people climbed in Wrangell-St. Elias National Park or Glacier Bay National Park. Only four groups and ten climbers were successful. This is on a par with the average success rate in the area, caused predominately by the weather. The unpredictable and highly wet, windy, snowy conditions make difficulties. An early March expedition to Mount St. Elias was stopped by snowfall of 25 to 30 feet in a ten-day period. Another party never made it out of Yakutat because of the weather and flew south after waiting for five days. After starting on March 3, Alaskans Dave McGiven, Leo Americus and John Bauman gave up on the east ridge of St. Elias when new snow turned the climb into an exercise of survival. Englishman Dean James and Scot Alex McNab on May 22 successfully climbed St. Elias by its south ridge. A commercially guided group led by George Dunn failed to get up St. Elias by its south ridge, but all eight reached the summit of Haydon Peak. Tom Hafnor, Bobby Derry, John McKinney and Jim Chisolm hoped to climb St. Elias but the air taxi was unable to get into the area. They opted for Mount Logan instead, but weather kept them from the summit there...
Impressive. Check this out.
"Manaslu, at 8163 meters, is the eighth highest peak in the world. It is located in
the west-central part of Nepal, and our team will climb it by the original route.
We will be climbing during the "spring" or " pre-monsoon" season, when the hazards
of weather and snow and avalanche are traditionally at their lowest"
"Our international team made a democratic (one member-one vote) unanimous decision to be
super-safe and cautiously descend the mountain, after we received 13 meters of snow in
30 days, and all of our tents were buried several times (luckily we brought tons of
extra equipment)."
http://www.k2news.com/2003/m03dandis11.htmAlthough its hard to imagine that overall and usually that Manaslu or any mountain in the Himalayas would match the snowfall of Mount Saint Elias with the possible exception of Kangto which is in the far eastern Himalayas.
Still not sure if that really shows anything. A system that brings light rainfall at low elevation can be heavy higher up. For example, these storms in California:
These recent systems have been very moist but dynamically unimpressive, meaning that there has been dramatic orographic enhancement of precipitation (often at the expense of rain-shadowed valleys, where observed precipitation has been quite a bit lighter).
I think we'd need to know more details on the synoptics of precipitation to judge.
Looking at images of Puerto Eden and Puerto Montt, they both appear to have topography that should promote Orographic rainfall.
While they both have a high rainfall, the rain days would indicate that the systems lack the overall ability to produce as much rainfall as some other climates, instead relying on high frequency of rainfall.
One of the snowiest places in Norway is the Ã…lfoten glacier (1,385 m asl, 61 44 N, 05 38 E), the westernmost glacier in Norway. Common snow depth in April is 8 m. 13 m has been recorded. Annual precipitation on the glacier is estimated to be 5,600 mm (Roald, NVE).
Image: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/14002333
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