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Old 05-28-2016, 10:21 AM
 
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Not 120watts. That is the point of bright sunshine and the calculator. It is averaging 10 second intervals of "bright sunshine".
Any data for grand forks North Dakota? Or Fargo North Dakota?
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Old 05-28-2016, 03:45 PM
 
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Any data for grand forks North Dakota? Or Fargo North Dakota?
I'll take a look. Remember we can only use data from 2013 to present as that email stated cause that is when all stations converted to the 5 min solar radiation data that was averaged from ten second intervals. So every ten seconds it measures the sunshine and then every five minutes it logs the five min average based on all the ten second readings. Before 2013 they dumped a lot of the ten second data as it was too much so the five minute avg wasn't very accurate.
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Old 05-28-2016, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Key Biscayne, FL
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I'll take a look. Remember we can only use data from 2013 to present as that email stated cause that is when all stations converted to the 5 min solar radiation data that was averaged from ten second intervals. So every ten seconds it measures the sunshine and then every five minutes it logs the five min average based on all the ten second readings. Before 2013 they dumped a lot of the ten second data as it was too much so the five minute avg wasn't very accurate.
Can you do Miami, or show me how to? Thanks.
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Old 05-28-2016, 03:55 PM
 
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Can you do Miami, or show me how to? Thanks.
I will look for a station near Miami.
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Old 05-28-2016, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Seattle area
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SeaTac?
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Old 05-29-2016, 12:35 AM
 
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Can you do Los Angeles as well?

Thanks.
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Old 05-29-2016, 03:27 AM
 
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As a general rule of thumb, US locations seem to have their annual sunshine hours overstated by around 5-10%. I'll wait for RWood to comment on this, but I will say that New Zealand has a similar issue since switching sunshine recording methods at some sites. Places that previously recorded ~2300 hrs manually are now recording ~2700 hrs with automated readings (LOL).
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Old 05-29-2016, 03:36 AM
 
Location: Wellington and North of South
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As a general rule of thumb, US locations seem to have their annual sunshine hours overstated by around 5-10%. I'll wait for RWood to comment on this, but I will say that New Zealand has a similar issue since switching sunshine recording methods at some sites. Places that previously recorded ~2300 hrs manually are now recording ~2700 hrs with automated readings (LOL).
That's certainly right about NZ. Nearly all converted sites have had annual totals increased by 200-250 hours, and some by 300-400 hours. We can't get inter-site comparison to work until all sites are converted - and references to past averages when assessing monthly data are pretty meaningless - until averages are later updated in the established electronic era.
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Old 05-30-2016, 09:47 PM
 
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Any data for grand forks North Dakota? Or Fargo North Dakota?


The town of Jamestown, ND between Fargo and Bismark.


2013 = 2,746 hours, 2014 = 2,574 hours, and 2015 = 2,695 hours

Three year average = 2,672 hours.
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Old 05-30-2016, 09:59 PM
 
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SeaTac?


Well it was either Darrington, WA or Quinalt, WA.


Quinalt, WA


2013 = 1,345 hours


I realized this was right on the coast in the Olympic Mtns. and wouldn't be a good site to use for Seattle.




But, there is a site in Corvalis, OR which probably gives a good representation for Portland - Seattle.




Corvalis 2013 = 2,177 hours, 2014 = 2,258 hours, and 2015 =1,833 hours. Again one day of data is missing in each year.



Three year average for Corvalis, OR is 2,089 hours.




Darrington:

Note in each year one day of data was missing.




Three year average = 1,683



2013 = 1,591 hours, 2014 = 1,556 hours, and 2015 = 1,901 hours
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