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Old 01-10-2017, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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Also you guys said weak El Nino conditions don't take hold till august, so most of the summer then is a warm neutral?
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Old 01-10-2017, 07:56 AM
 
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Also you guys said weak El Nino conditions don't take hold till august, so most of the summer then is a warm neutral?
UK Met saying moderate to strong El Nino by August. EURO saying weak El Nino by August so neutral for much of the summer... Like Cambium pointed out, CFS neutral as well. At this point anything can happen. Just interesting to see what the models are hinting at this early on....
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Old 01-10-2017, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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According to NOAA, "La Niña is slightly favored to persist (~50% chance) during the winter 2016-17.
A transition to ENSO-neutral is favored during January-March 2017."

I'm not that good at cutting and pasting, here; source is:http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/product...-fcsts-web.pdf
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Old 01-10-2017, 08:32 AM
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Also you guys said weak El Nino conditions don't take hold till august, so most of the summer then is a warm neutral?
Neutral summers.

1989
1990
1995
1999
2001
2003
2005

The summers of 1989, 1990, 1995, 2003 were warm/hot and sunny.
Summers of 1999, 2001, 2005 were average or slightly warmer than average.

If those summers are the analogues for summer 2017, then it'll be a good one and we would finally see a sunny summer for the first time since 2005.
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Old 01-10-2017, 08:39 AM
 
Location: João Pessoa,Brazil(The easternmost point of Americas)
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Damn,the northeast part of my country don't deserve it,El-Nino means dry weather here,and we are with a severe drought since 2010 at least,2015 was one of worst years due to the strong nino,and now this will happen again? F...........CK
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Old 01-10-2017, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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Neutral summers.

1989
1990
1995
1999
2001
2003
2005

The summers of 1989, 1990, 1995, 2003 were warm/hot and sunny.
Summers of 1999, 2001, 2005 were average or slightly warmer than average.

If those summers are the analogues for summer 2017, then it'll be a good one and we would finally see a sunny summer for the first time since 2005.
Some VERY good analogues there! 1995 was they most humid summer ever, 2005 was one of the most humid. Chicago George can you give me the link where I can make analog blends again?
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Old 01-10-2017, 08:45 AM
 
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Some VERY good analogues there! 1995 was they most humid summer ever, 2005 was one of the most humid. Chicago George can you give me the link where I can make analog blends again?


If much of the summer is neutral, then some of those would certainly be good for hot weather lovers in the Midwest (95 and 99 especially). 1989 and 2003 were cool though....

https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/data/usclimdivs/






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Old 01-10-2017, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Personally I love El Nino winters ... where I live (Arizona) El Nino/La Nina do not really have a clear impact on summer weather, but El Nino winters can bring us a lot more rain/snow. They're particularly good for California, for whom I continue to root in their hopes to escape their drought (although ideally not 13 inches a time...).

I guess it may not be that relevant if it's neutral or a weak El Nino, impacts could end up being pretty negligible like this year's La Nina/neutral winter.
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Old 01-10-2017, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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There's been a ton of Summers in Neutral and Nino status..


Here's a look at them.. Source

I could of used the slightly negative side of 0 as well for Neutral but I just used 0.0 and higher.




As far as El Nino Summers. This is what I got.

Year
1951
1953
1957
1958
1963
1965
1969
1972
1982
1983
1987
1991
1992
1997
2002
2004
2009
2015





If you blend all those El Nino summers listed. This is the Average temp departure for all those summers

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Theres some moderate to strong ones in there I would exclude but I figure since we're so far off I'd just show all Nino Summers no matter the strength
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Old 01-10-2017, 09:16 AM
 
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MRCC - Midwest Climate: El Niño > El Niño Impacts
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