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Can you share locations perhaps, med climates aren't particularly naturally lush in comparison of wetter oceanic and humid subtropical climates, no denying it. Not too mention the forest in that pic does not look diverse at all, nothing but conifers.
Sierra de Cazorla, Murcia. They're Mediterranean pines.
Of course they are less lushy no one doubts that but I never said that Med climates were lushier.
Just saying that Med. forests exist too. Not all of Med climates are like the surroundings of LA.
Looked at the surroundings on Google streetview. It actually has some pretty big trees and decent forests around it. I think this goes to show that the key thing for forests to grow is more rainfall during the dry season. Definitely not your typical med, much closer to being oceanic. Only 2.9 mm more in march and it would be. With around 200 mm of rain per month in the winter, though, would it fit into your typical Northern European holidayer's idea of what a med climate should be? You won't be seeing forests like that in the Algarve or Tenerife
Of course! California has also many Mediterranean lushy zones.
There was also another user from mid California showing photos of lushy forests. In fact I shown photos here (with the sources ) of Muir Woods national park north of SF which looks almost like Oceanic...
I will never be able to understand why people like rain/snow/cold. Why change perfection. My one complaint about Mediterranean climates is that they aren't warm enough. Ideal for me would be 85 degrees F every day of the year, with no precipitation.
Define perfection?
85 degrees f everyday with no precipitation is perfection for you, for a lot of people 85 f (especially with humidity) is too hot.
For rain, some people like the sound it creates and is very relaxing to them, the thunderstorms create a source of excitement. Plus rain creates gorgeous landscapes (Just look at PNW and parts of the Eastern US).
For snow, some people who like winter related activities like skiing, snowshoeing, and etc, 15-30 degrees with a bunch of snow would be perfection.
For cold, the air feels more crisp.
Some people (myself included) just simply like those things.
Not everyone likes snow, all these chilling snowstorms after that you shovel massive amounts snow to get out from your home,basically weather made for introverts
I hate drought. Hate, hate, hate it. I don't want to live in a swamp, but I hate the dried-out, dead look that drought gives things, and I hate monotonous weather and excessive sun.
I rate climates on a college-like grading scale, with 90-100 as an A, 80-89 as a B, 70-79 as a C, 60-69 as a D, 50-59 as an E (a "high F", a climate that "barely fails"), 20-49 as an F, and 19 and below as a Z (aka, the "world's worst" climates).
Each month with less than an inch of precipitation gets 3% taken off. Less than a half-inch, 6% off per month. No precipitation at all (i.e. less than 0.01") gets a brutal 10% off for each month! These are multiplied by the final grade without modifiers; for instance, a climate with a 70% unmodified grade, but with a dry season of, say, 0.79, 0.32, 0.21, and 0.55 inches of rain would lose 3+6+6+3 or 18 percent, meaning the final score is 70% x 82% (what's left after subtracting the 18%) meaning the climate drops from 70% to 57.4%, aka a C- to an E.
Let's take Nashville, TN, a colder-end Cfa climate. It gets a grade of 85.2% per my formula, a mid-end B and one of the best Cfa climates there is.
Let's add one month where precipitation drops below an inch, keeping the yearly precipitation the same (effectively, making all other months rainier). The grade drops to 82.6% / B-, not a big hit.
Let's make that month have, say, 0.2" of rain and make the two adjacent months have less than an inch. Just from this three-month dry season, the grade drops to 75.0% / C, a whole letter grade from the original.
If we make that, say, four months with less than 0.2" rain and two adjacent months with less than an inch (as is common in CA), not only do we make winters very wet but this 6-month dry season costs the climate dearly; 59.6%, near the bottom of D, is its final grade.
Make two of those months TOTALLY DEVOID of precipitation (i.e. 2 months with no precip, 2 months with less than a half-inch, 2 months with between 0.5" and 1") and we're down to 52.8% / E-.
And if, say, half of the year in an average year went rainless (4 months devoid of precip, 2 months with less than a half inch) now we're down to 40.9%, well into the failing range.
There's nothing that will wreck a climate faster than a dry season. Also, such a long dry season would probably send yearly sunshine hours above 2,500, further lowering the grades in question. 1,800-2,500 is ideal.
Not everyone likes snow, all these chilling snowstorms after that you shovel massive amounts snow to get out from your home,basically weather made for introverts
That is understandable, there is not one thing that every single person likes entirely (not everyone likes cold and/or hot weather).
I love a Mediterranean climate, especially the milder ones like San Diego. There’s a lot of variation within them, though. Some have really depressing winters with chilly rain every day, others can be quite humid and muggy in the summer despite the stereotype that Med climates are not humid (Beirut and Rome). I think that for overall human comfort this climate can’t be beat.
Alright, after reading about the current drought situation in California, which is looking pretty grim, there is one serious downside to Mediterranean climates: going into the summer at a water deficit means big trouble, because there will be no rain for months.
California’s reservoirs are at 50%, the snowpack melted two months early, and now that it’s June there will be no more rain. I imagine fire season will be particularly bad.
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