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View Poll Results: Is heating or air conditioning more vital to human habitation?
Heating 67 87.01%
Air Conditioning 10 12.99%
Voters: 77. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-08-2019, 12:22 AM
 
Location: St. Louis Park, MN
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Not really, because people can die of dehydration at any temperature. It's actually quite easy to become dehydrated in extreme cold. And if you drink enough fluids (adding a little sugar and salt is important if your fluid is plain water), you're not going to become dehydrated even if it's over 40C.

Yes. Theoretically you can get hydrated in extreme cold. But you're REALLY stretching it, broski. What makes one get dehydrated faster in hot weather, especially DRY hot weather, is sweating. The more you sweat the thirstier you get. While you can certainly sweat in cold weather, and believe me, when it was a bit colder this month, I was sweating while playing hockey, but its no wear near as parching as the heat. And I been in sub-zero temps and not once did it occur to me "man, I sure am thirsty." However, I've been in dry heat and even comfortable dry heat has dehydrated me.



Aside from that, I'll take playing hockey in 7 degree weather versus playing football in 97 degree weather. Which has a higher risk of someone passing out from being dehydrated, ya think?
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Old 01-08-2019, 01:27 AM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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We often hear of how places like Phoenix, Houston, or Miami were sparsely populated before the advent of air conditioning. But why doesn't anyone say that Toronto, Montreal, or Minneapolis were hardly inhabitable before the advent of modern heating?

Wood stoves and furnaces were very inefficient, contributed to filthy indoor air quality, and it was very hard to stockpile any amount of wood, often, on the windswept praries.

And let's face it: you'll die far faster if exposed to the elements during a winter in the upper Midwest than exposed to the elements during a Florida summer.
I've never lived anywhere that had air-conditioning or had it in a car. I spent three years in Georgia and Alabama in the Army and you know we had no air-conditioning in our barracks. If I went out for a run during daytime in the summer, the heat and humidity were so high, that two miles felt like a marathon. But healthy, active people can tolerate a lot of heat and cold.
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Old 01-08-2019, 07:44 AM
 
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If you are prepared you can survive anywhere. People survive on Antarctica or in the Outback of Australia.
Nobody survives in Antarctica, or it would have a native population. Depending on technology is not survival.
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Old 01-08-2019, 09:34 AM
 
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I said heating was more vital. It seems to me, that without heat, when you need it, you can more easily die. Without air conditioning, with proper considerations, you can survive, albeit not all that comfortably maybe. You lay low, you take your siestas in the middle of the afternoon, etc....but you can survive with proper precautions.
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Old 01-08-2019, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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. Fires are inefficient and quickly increase smoke, and even then it is still pretty cold if the temperature outside is well below freezing. You could also run into a shortage of wood.
A wood fire can keep any type of enclosed structure pretty darn warm, I assure you. Sometimes you even have to open the windows (in sub-zero F weather) because it gets to hot. Trust me, I've been there.
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Old 01-08-2019, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I think what some people are also missing is that you have easier access to food in warm climates, where in subpolar or tundra climates, almost all if not all food has to be imported
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Old 01-08-2019, 09:59 AM
 
Location: God's Country
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Unless I'm missing something, this is a no brainer. Our air conditioning during 1940-mid 1960s was the electric fan. Hell, people would use cardboard hand-held fans to fan themselves. We survived,


This was Baltimore where the summers were/are hot and muggy. My parents were among the 1st in the neighborhood to get a window AC in 1965.


But I'm thankful that there was an oil burner, first with radiator and baseboard heat, and then forced air. Doubt if we'd've actually survived without it, even tho this was Maryland, not Pt. Barrow Alaska.
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Old 01-08-2019, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Bidford-on-Avon, England
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Unless I'm missing something, this is a no brainer. Our air conditioning during 1940-mid 1960s was the electric fan. Hell, people would use cardboard hand-held fans to fan themselves. We survived,


This was Baltimore where the summers were/are hot and muggy. My parents were among the 1st in the neighborhood to get a window AC in 1965.


But I'm thankful that there was an oil burner, first with radiator and baseboard heat, and then forced air. Doubt if we'd've actually survived without it, even tho this was Maryland, not Pt. Barrow Alaska.
I don’t even have a fan and last summer had 27C highs...
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Old 01-08-2019, 12:28 PM
 
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I don’t even have a fan and last summer had 27C highs...
You thought you were dying without a/c in 27C?
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Old 01-08-2019, 12:34 PM
 
Location: St. Louis Park, MN
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I think what some people are also missing is that you have easier access to food in warm climates, where in subpolar or tundra climates, almost all if not all food has to be imported

Warm climates are not comparable to tundra climates. Hot climates are. How food rich are the sandlands of Namibia? At least you can fish in the arctic. Neither are that food-rich obviously.
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