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Toronto has an internal stereotype for the winter months but not for the summer. In the winter Torontonians perceive it as much colder than it actually is.
Many people I know seriously think that in Permian all earth was hot desert. Ok, but all these evidences of coal forests, bogs, ice caps..
Agreed. As you stated in another thread, there were probably Dfd/Dsd/Dwd climates in parts of Gondwana at that time. And as I learned back in 2013, there were A LOT of lush swamps around 300 million years ago in parts of the modern Appalachia which later became coal (why coal is so common in East Tennessee).
And another prehistoric one is that the entire U.S. was glaciated or at least tundra in glacial periods. Not true either. In fact, there were even still a few subtropical forests in south Florida and temperate forests across what is now the Deep South (up to around Memphis, Atlanta, Birmingham and Virginia Beach)! The southwest also was a good refuge for displaced species.
I just heard that NYC stays are 95F for nearly 70 percent of the year and rarely ever sees cloudy days...... I don't even know how he came to that conclusion....
The loads-of-Hawaiian-warmth stereotype is not true throughout the entirety of the state. Hilo has a very cold climate given its 19N latitude and near sea level position on an island, this 23.3C annual average temperature is the same as Central Florida and South Texas around 9 degrees further north and even outdoes famously-cold-for-the-latitude East Asian climates (Hanoi is a bit warmer at 2 degrees to the north)!
Then of course there are those tundra mountains which literally have cold <0C lows year round, but those are much more well known than how cold places like Hilo are for the latitude and elevation.
Wrong obviously! Of course its the rain in particular that is the 'big' stereotypical inaccuracy, it wouldn't really matter if it wasn't for the thousands of inappropriately dressed tourists I see in London every year, particularly in July on the underground! It can often be in the 90's down there and you can tell the tourists they are usually red faced with sweaters tied around their waists, wearing some kind of bright yellow or red plastic anorak, umbrellas tucked under their arms and sweat pouring off of their foreheads! :-D
London easily gets many warm and some hot days however we must remember it's all relative. Someone coming from a subtropical or Tropical climate might still feel London summer days to be mild or even cool and wrap up. As for the reputation about rain, it's not about the amount of rainfall but the frequency in which it occurs, for example London only gets 615mm of rain yet it's spread over 112 days and is it heavy rain or drizzle for most of the day making those rainy days feel wet all the time? Meanwhile take Perth for example where we get 735mm of rain spread over 108 days yet we don't have this reputation for being wet. This is largely because it's only wet in one season but mainly because even in those rainy days it can absolutely smash down for 20 minutes and then not rain for hours or the rest of the day with the sun coming out.
I also feel London gets a bad rep due largely due to the rest of the UK where rainfall again is largely more frequent so people assume it's the same in London. I also feel that people assume with the amount of overcast days it gets that it has rained or is going to rain. If there was more sunshine people wouldn't think this way. It's the only reasons that make sense to me as there are plenty of other places that get significantly more rainfall over more days than London yet don't have such a reputation.
The loads-of-Hawaiian-warmth stereotype is not true throughout the entirety of the state. Hilo has a very cold climate given its 19N latitude and near sea level position on an island, this 23.3C annual average temperature is the same as Central Florida and South Texas around 9 degrees further north and even outdoes famously-cold-for-the-latitude East Asian climates (Hanoi is a bit warmer at 2 degrees to the north)!
Then of course there are those tundra mountains which literally have cold <0C lows year round, but those are much more well known than how cold places like Hilo are for the latitude and elevation.
Not that unusual for 19S though, ex Belo Horizonte, Beira (Mozambique).
The loads-of-Hawaiian-warmth stereotype is not true throughout the entirety of the state. Hilo has a very cold climate given its 19N latitude and near sea level position on an island, this 23.3C annual average temperature is the same as Central Florida and South Texas around 9 degrees further north and even outdoes famously-cold-for-the-latitude East Asian climates (Hanoi is a bit warmer at 2 degrees to the north)!
Then of course there are those tundra mountains which literally have cold <0C lows year round, but those are much more well known than how cold places like Hilo are for the latitude and elevation.
It's just like the Hoh Rainforest mentioned a few posts back, which has ridiculously chilly average winter highs for its latitude, altitude, and amount of maritime influence from that level of winter rain. (Jan-Feb highs there are supposedly almost 10 F colder than Seattle or Portland!!) Or to use a more globally well-known example- the coastal/southern India climates that are slightly cooler during the height of the monsoon than right before or right after. In both cases, the neverending rain decreases average high temperatures and also prevents low temperatures from climbing as high as they can in drier or less oceanic climates that are more prone to heatwaves.
It's just like the Hoh Rainforest mentioned a few posts back, which has ridiculously chilly average winter highs for its latitude, altitude, and amount of maritime influence from that level of winter rain. (Jan-Feb highs there are supposedly almost 10 F colder than Seattle or Portland!!) Or to use a more globally well-known example- the coastal/southern India climates that are slightly cooler during the height of the monsoon than right before or right after. In both cases, the neverending rain decreases average high temperatures and also prevents low temperatures from climbing as high as they can in drier or less oceanic climates that are more prone to heatwaves.
Maybe you saw climate stats for a site that was at a higher elevation.
Edit: Ah, you might be talking about the wiki page for Hoh Rainforest which indeed cites colder winter temperatures. But that station is more inland, in a valley right against the slopes of the Olympics at 600 feet or so of elevation. Places closer to the coast have milder winter averages. You can explore various stations on this page if you're interested: https://wrcc.dri.edu/summary/Climsmwa.html
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