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Old 11-01-2013, 01:13 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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People living in the UK don't notice the low sun angle because it's something we live with every year, but to a person from Massachusetts, it will be extremely noticeable. Even a person from Paris would probably find our low sun angle a shock. I would find the comparatively high winter sun in New England to be odd.
My sun angle was already below their winter sun by the 20th October.

 
Old 11-01-2013, 01:15 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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You were lucky you saw the sun at all.
Well, one or two days. Only photos I have uploaded show no sun.







Almost as novel as the low (or no) sun was the palm trees.
 
Old 11-01-2013, 01:16 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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The difference between us is stark. Though Shetlands must barely get much of any sun. On December 15 sun angle is:

At solar noon @ 53°N: 13.8°
At solar noon @ 42°N: 24.6°
At 2hr45m past solar noon @ 53°N: 5.3°
At 2hr45m past solar noon @ 42°N: 13.8°

So at solar noon, your sun is half as high in the sky, about the same as ours would be 2hr45mins later. At that there, the sun would be more or less on the horizon. The summer differences would be much less obvious, because outside of midday, the sun angle would be similar or lower here. And 25° is still a winter sun, it's much lower than summer sun both here and in England.
Ok I live at 55N

So we have to change the angle to 11.8°.
The sun is not on the horizon at midday because if that was the case the sun would only be up for like two hours and that is not the case. Again exaggeration.
 
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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My sun angle was already below their winter sun by the 20th October.
which is why I found your low sun so novel. Not much of North America is inhabited as far north as you.
 
Old 11-01-2013, 01:17 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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You probably would but on the other hand I find your winter sun angle hilarious and it amazes me how the snow does not melt with the day length and strength of the sun.
 
Old 11-01-2013, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Yorkshire, England
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Ok I live at 55N

So we have to change the angle to 11.8°.
The sun is not on the horizon at midday because if that was the case the sun would only be up for like two hours and that is not the case. Again exaggeration.
11.8 degrees is still about half as high as anything he would ever have seen at midday where he lives, don't you get why it would seem weird to him?
 
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Ok I live at 55N

So we have to change the angle to 11.8°.
I didn't visit Northern Ireland, I visited England. So I used a different latitude.

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The sun is not on the horizon at midday because if that was the case the sun would only be up for like two hours and that is not the case. Again exaggeration.
Read my post. I didn't say "on the horizon", I said "not much above the horizon". 12° isn't much, and it's a rather dramatic difference from what I'm used to.
 
Old 11-01-2013, 01:21 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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Another argument?
 
Old 11-01-2013, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Finland
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People living in the UK don't notice the low sun angle because it's something we live with every year, but to a person from Massachusetts, it will be extremely noticeable. Even a person from Paris would probably find our low sun angle a shock. I would find the comparatively high winter sun in New England to be odd.
I don't know. I have to go down at least 10 degrees to notice something. Honestly I don't people pay much attention to the sun angle at all. Especially if you compare Leeds and Paris.
 
Old 11-01-2013, 01:25 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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btw, on June 15, 4hr30min past solar noon, 53°N has a higher sun angle than 42°N
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