Red or Blue

[Drover]

Originally Posted by Wellstone

That is pretty much B.S. Historically, take highway 51, everything to the east leans right, most everything to the west leans left. Madison is very liberal as is Milwaukee proper. Suburban Milwaukee is far right. Northern wisconsin is largely independent, but more conservative to the northeast and more liberal to the northwest.

Uh... for supposedly being "pretty much B.S.", that's not all that different from what I said except the part about everything west of 51 leaning left. There are some counties in western Wisconsin that are consistently blue (though I wouldn't necessarily conflate that with "left"), but most of them lean with whatever the national sentiment is in any given election cycle. Even in close elections like 2000 and 2004, much of western Wisconsin voted red. But what you really find if you look at a map that represents the results as a spectrum from blue to red is that rural Wisconsin is purple and that there's no obvious "Route 51" divide.

[frank90]

I heard you guys were really upset at the most recent governor for dissaproving the federal funds for light rail. Our governor Beverly Perdue in NC accepted it. lol

[Milwaukee City]

Originally Posted by frank90

I heard you guys were really upset at the most recent governor for dissaproving the federal funds for light rail. Our governor Beverly Perdue in NC accepted it. lol

Light rail is kinda like the Olympics, yeah it sounds good from the sound of it but once you have it you realize how much money you lose on the thing.

[Devitron5000]

Originally Posted by Milwaukee City

How about the 90% of TV stations that are left wing?

People tend not to mention things that don't actually exist

[Devitron5000]

Originally Posted by Milwaukee City

Light rail is kinda like the Olympics, yeah it sounds good from the sound of it but once you have it you realize how much money you lose on the thing.

Highways cost way more to maintain than rail, yet Scott Walker and his sockpuppets have never had any problem with them. Probably has something to do with all the campaign funds he gets from the construction companies that specialize in building roads (google it).

But regardless of money... how do more people not see how moronic and shortsighted it is to cut Wisconsin out of a national network and expect the state to have any type of future? Of course, Scotty the Dropout almost bankrupted the county with the largest treasury in the state. I don't see why anyone should expect him to give a damn about Wisconsin being economically viable as long as he's gettin' his.

[Devitron5000]

Originally Posted by Wellstone

That is pretty much B.S. Historically, take highway 51, everything to the east leans right, most everything to the west leans left. Madison is very liberal as is Milwaukee proper. Suburban Milwaukee is far right. Northern wisconsin is largely independent, but more conservative to the northeast and more liberal to the northwest.

This cycle obviously the game has changed, typically Wisconsin is a blue state - but the crackpots have screamed loudly and have temporarily taken over. People will find with radicals controlling the Senate, Assembly, and Governor's office that hard times are coming and these guys are not on their side. In 2 years it will all flip back again.

The prior cycle was very skewed to the other side, even Green Bay which is typically very conservative, voted for Obama. That cycle was a complete repudiation of the Bush administration, so clearly Wisconsin is able to be nudged one way or another.

It doesn't help that 90% of the stations on the AM dial are right wing, the other 10% talk about the packers 24/7.

I dunno... I think Drover was pretty on-point. Particularly about the Milwaukee suburbs being more "Republican" and Northern Wisconsin being more "conservative." For example, people can be openly gay (to an extent) in a place like Mequon or Brookfield and at least expect to be tolerated provided they fit all the other cultural phenotypes of the area (upper middle-class, "professional," voting Republican, etc.). In Northern Wisconsin, which has more Democratic voters, those same people could realistically expect to end up at the bottom of a lake.