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Old 03-25-2011, 06:02 PM
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A coworker of mine who told me he was going on vacation and would return on Monday was let go today?? One of the top people at the company who been there for 6 years. Someone was saying that it could be because of the reason below?

"He made too much money?


That can't be true can it? What a depressimg weekend it will be after hearing this.
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Old 03-25-2011, 06:37 PM
 
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Yes, it can happen. It's a pretty unpleasant situation. Unfortunately though, a termination cannot always be avoided. And if it has to happen around a person's vacation, I think it's better to do so after rather than beforehand. For the days they are on vacation, they are still an employee so they will be paid for their time off. Whereas if a person is terminated beforehand, their vacation is unpaid and they will probably be worrying about how to pay for it.

Yes, it's possible people are terminated because they earn too much money. Either because their work product does not reflect the salary they are being paid, or simply because the company is in financial difficulties and needs to cut somewhere. In the latter case though, IMO it's better to offer staff a pay cut or furlough rather than laying them off entirely. While most people aren't happy at a paycut, most recognize that less pay is better than no pay.
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Old 03-25-2011, 06:42 PM
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Yes, it can happen. It's a pretty unpleasant situation. Unfortunately though, a termination cannot always be avoided. And if it has to happen around a person's vacation, I think it's better to do so beforehand than after. For the days they are on vacation, they are still an employee so they will be paid for their time off. Whereas if a person is terminated beforehand, their vacation is unpaid and they will probably be worrying about how to pay for it.

Yes, it's possible people are terminated because they earn too much money. Either because their work product does not reflect the salary they are being paid, or simply because the company is in financial difficulties and needs to cut somewhere. In the latter case though, IMO it's better to offer staff a pay cut or furlough rather than laying them off entirely. While most people aren't happy at a paycut, most recognize that less pay is better than no pay.

That would be a tough decision because with a pay cut you don't get less work and with a layoff you get more time to job search so you can make more than the new cut salary
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Old 03-25-2011, 06:43 PM
 
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Don't take a vacation big sol, it's a trap.
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Old 03-25-2011, 06:59 PM
 
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Imagine how much more he's enjoying that vacation not knowing. If it was planned long in advance and he's been looking forward to it, that news would spoil it for sure.

As for the reason, yes, often the cuts are the recently hired low seniority people, but other times they are "cutting the fat at the top."
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Old 03-25-2011, 07:02 PM
 
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Anything is possible...and if the need arises and you just happen to be on vacation, then I guess it would happen. Either way, it could be for the best to come back feeling rested than to deal with a high level of stress on top of any existing stress the job has provided!
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Old 03-25-2011, 07:04 PM
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Imagine how much more he's enjoying that vacation not knowing. If it was planned long in advance and he's been looking forward to it, that news would spoil it for sure.

As for the reason, yes, often the cuts are the recently hired low seniority people, but other times they are "cutting the fat at the top."


He does know because he told someone who used to work there who called a coworker who is still there right before we left
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Old 03-25-2011, 07:09 PM
 
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I think it's better to do so beforehand than after. For the days they are on vacation, they are still an employee so they will be paid for their time off. Whereas if a person is terminated beforehand, their vacation is unpaid and they will probably be worrying about how to pay for it.
That's not true about not getting paid. If a person is terminated before vacation is used, the company has to pay any vacation pay owed to the employee that the employee earned prior to termination.

But I agree it's best to terminate before vacation. It gives the employee the opportunity to decide if they can afford to spend money on vacation.
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Old 03-25-2011, 07:15 PM
 
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Yep. The guy who wrote "Starbucks Saved My Life" was let go for being close to the top, meaning high money, but can still get "laid off". That is an excellent book to read about starting all over at age 55.

Don't ask for time off when people are getting laid off.
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Old 03-25-2011, 07:16 PM
 
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Yep. The guy who wrote "Starbucks Saved My Life" was let go for being close to the top, meaning high money, but can still get "laid off". That is an excellent book to read about starting all over at age 55.

Don't ask for time off when people are getting laid off.
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