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Old 09-29-2007, 03:10 PM
 
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Alright,

I'm trying to make sense of everything. I looked into payscale.com and salary.com, but they aren't seeming to help much.

I have offers from $55,000-$60,000 in the Los Angeles Area.
I have offers from $48,000-$53,000 in the Hartford, Connecticut area.
And I have an offer for $55,000 in the Boston area.

My question is are these ranges enough to survive in the areas I've mentioned? I mean, considering car payments, rent for a good one bedroom or studio, etc..

I have $100,000 in student loan debt that I'll need to repay, so that should give some more perspective on my situation. I'm tempted to just take the offer for $60,000 starting, but I realize that cost of living can make a lesser salary more "lucrative" for me.

Also, I'm a Computer Engineering major, and will be doing anything from web development to actual software engineering. I'll have a bachelors degree from a fairly good school (not ivy). Are these offer ranges reasonable, or am I being stiffed?
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Old 09-29-2007, 04:40 PM
 
Location: in drifts of snow wherever you go
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Alright,

I'm trying to make sense of everything. I looked into payscale.com and salary.com, but they aren't seeming to help much.

I have offers from $55,000-$60,000 in the Los Angeles Area.
I have offers from $48,000-$53,000 in the Hartford, Connecticut area.
And I have an offer for $55,000 in the Boston area.

My question is are these ranges enough to survive in the areas I've mentioned? I mean, considering car payments, rent for a good one bedroom or studio, etc..

I have $100,000 in student loan debt that I'll need to repay, so that should give some more perspective on my situation. I'm tempted to just take the offer for $60,000 starting, but I realize that cost of living can make a lesser salary more "lucrative" for me.

Also, I'm a Computer Engineering major, and will be doing anything from web development to actual software engineering. I'll have a bachelors degree from a fairly good school (not ivy). Are these offer ranges reasonable, or am I being stiffed?
Ditch the car and take the job in Boston. You'll save plenty by not having to pay car insurance and payments. Rents are less expensive in Boston than Los Angeles. Get a roommate and pay off the student loan as soon as possible.

Also look into consolidating your loans to lock in other the lower interest rates available now.

Remember, you can write off the interest on your student loans... !

Greenie
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Old 09-29-2007, 05:16 PM
 
Location: SC
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Good advice by Greenie and count your blessings you are being offered that much with NO work experience and just an undergraduate degree. I'd look up "Room-mates wanted ads" and share a place with one or two people. Rents are outrageous, in and around Boston. Then you can ramp up your payments on the loans. I'd also try to resist overspending on recreation. I also might look into the Hartford area for its lower cost of living (and lower rents) if you want to pay off your loans earlier.
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Old 09-29-2007, 05:52 PM
 
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You will have a very spartan (i.e., poor) lifestyle in L.A. on that salary. You can do it, but you will be strapped. You'll probably have to have multiple roommates and live in a less desirable part of town, however. The beach is great, but L.A. rents and taxes are very high. Good luck!
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Old 09-29-2007, 05:53 PM
 
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Well, I have two internships (Fortune 10, and a small company), as well as many contract jobs that I did during college that are all related to my Software Engineering career.
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Old 09-29-2007, 05:54 PM
 
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You will have a very spartan (i.e., poor) lifestyle in L.A. on that salary. You can do it, but you will be strapped. You'll probably have to have multiple roommates and live in a less desirable part of town, however. The beach is great, but L.A. rents and taxes are very high. Good luck!
And, just out of curiosity, how much does one have to make to live "average", "comfortably", and "very well" in LA?

I am definitely open to advice in general. I've asking around about this situation, and what I've learned is that I haven't the slightest clue what I'm getting myself into.
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Old 09-29-2007, 06:11 PM
 
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And, just out of curiosity, how much does one have to make to live "average", "comfortably", and "very well" in LA?

I am definitely open to advice in general. I've asking around about this situation, and what I've learned is that I haven't the slightest clue what I'm getting myself into.
Trust me on this, Los Angeles is not a place for those who want to save money. It is a culture of conspicuous wealth. Move here, and before you know it, you'll be convinced that you absolutely must lease a brand new BMW to drive yourself to work in. (And you will have to drive to work.) And then you'll be convinced that you need those $150 pair of jeans, and so on. The other problem is, there are few high-tech companies here.

Move to Boston and you'll be surrounded by more conservative folks and engineers who are happy to drive a Subaru and save for their first home. They will value your education there. You'll also be bumping up against lots of other people in the high tech industry, which sets you up just perfectly for your next higher-paying job! When you have a $100,000 student loan to deal with, these are important considerations.

Greenie
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Old 09-29-2007, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Alright,

I'm trying to make sense of everything. I looked into payscale.com and salary.com, but they aren't seeming to help much.

I have offers from $55,000-$60,000 in the Los Angeles Area.
I have offers from $48,000-$53,000 in the Hartford, Connecticut area.
And I have an offer for $55,000 in the Boston area.

My question is are these ranges enough to survive in the areas I've mentioned? I mean, considering car payments, rent for a good one bedroom or studio, etc..

I have $100,000 in student loan debt that I'll need to repay, so that should give some more perspective on my situation. I'm tempted to just take the offer for $60,000 starting, but I realize that cost of living can make a lesser salary more "lucrative" for me.

Also, I'm a Computer Engineering major, and will be doing anything from web development to actual software engineering. I'll have a bachelors degree from a fairly good school (not ivy). Are these offer ranges reasonable, or am I being stiffed?
These are average they do not include work experience.
LA
Computer Software Engineers, Systems Software (http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes151032.htm - broken link)
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA - May 2006 OES Metropolitan Area Occupational Employment and Wage Estimates
boston
Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH - May 2006 OES Metropolitan Area Occupational Employment and Wage Estimates
Computer Software Engineers, Systems Software (http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes151032.htm - broken link)
Hartford
Hartford-West Hartford-East Hartford, CT - May 2006 OES Metropolitan Area Occupational Employment and Wage Estimates
Computer Software Engineers, Systems Software (http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes151032.htm - broken link)
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Old 09-29-2007, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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I would forget the offer in L.A. The cost of living is much higher in L.A. than in Boston or Hartford, so even though the L.A. offer seems to be the highest, it's really the lowest IMO.
All other things being equal, I'd take the Boston job. It's a great city. But also consider how much medical insurance will cost at each company (can vary wildly), if either company gives bonuses, and if either company matches retirement account contributions. Also consider which job you think you will be happiest at, which you can stay the longest at.
Best of luck!
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Old 09-29-2007, 10:00 PM
 
Location: WA
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Are these offer ranges reasonable, or am I being stiffed?
It does not make any difference, these are the offers you have and as a recent BA grad you probably have little to bargain with.

I think you can make any of those offers and places work but it will take a responsible budget and execution. Look at the total situation in each case.

You will be paid market price in most cases and unless you find a way to offer more to your employer it will continue to be market compensation, regardless of your expenses.
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