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Old 07-26-2011, 12:22 PM
 
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Our company wants to hire someone who has Access and VBA knowledge. But, there aren't many people who have knowledge in this field. We want to hire someone, but can't, this is frustrating. We're willing to pay for plane ticket and pay competitive hourly rate.
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:19 PM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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Did you advertise the position? Are your qualification requirements rational or a wish list spanning 3 different specializations? Did you let HR do the screening and they tossed all the resumes in the trash based on their BS and shrugged their shoulders?

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Old 07-26-2011, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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Both Access and VBA are common. Not sure why you can't find someone.
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:40 PM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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Both Access and VBA are common. Not sure why you can't find someone.
Probably the usual BS that happens when a company hires:

Everyone gets together and decide on what qualifications they would like to have in the new hire.

Let's hire someone with a Master's degree in information systems, A+ certification, CCNA, MCSE, network+, programming in C, Java, 10 years experience working in the finance industry, experience with Proprietary Companies' Widgets plus version 4.56 on a Tuesday.....

Lets make it a contract 1099 position that pays below market rate to save money.

They get 500 applications though none of them meet the original criteria.

So they relax their standards and get 12 or so possibles.

HR decides that 3, are too old, 3 are too inexperienced, 4 they don't like how they sounded on the phone screen.

Next they interview the remaining 2. They don't like how one answered where do you see yourself in 5 years question and the other one did not have a good answer to the what is your greatest weakness question and didn't seem friendly enough.

Now they have no one and they re-advertise the position.

Finally one of the manager's has a golfing buddy that piddles with computers but never worked with Access in their life, but they hire him. He fails spectacularly and they are once again back where they have started.

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Old 07-26-2011, 01:51 PM
 
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Our company wants to hire someone who has Access and VBA knowledge. But, there aren't many people who have knowledge in this field. We want to hire someone, but can't, this is frustrating. We're willing to pay for plane ticket and pay competitive hourly rate.
That is patently incorrect as pointed out by S2B below
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Both Access and VBA are common. Not sure why you can't find someone.
Precisely what I was thinking - and why the OP potentially could be a set-up to a scam.
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Old 07-26-2011, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Is this something that is trainable? I'm sick of employers whining about the lack of skills when they themselves are doing nothing to solve the problem.
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Old 07-26-2011, 02:40 PM
 
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Not sure about VBA but access isn't that complex. Get someone with microsoft suite skills (which is just about anyone with any professional experience) and send them to an 8 hour class.
It ain't brain surgery...heck I have a working knowledge of access just by learning it on my own, trial and error, after about an hour explanation of the basics.
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Old 07-26-2011, 02:53 PM
 
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People still use MS Access & VBA?

Good gracious, I learned and "setup" a simple "database" using Access within a few hours. It took me longer to input all the data needed. And this was just a part time, summer work/study program job I did in college almost 13 yrs ago.

VBA is pretty easy too.

Just go to your local college & university and hire a comp sci student part time if you want to get it things done. It's probably not challenging enough for someone who actually wants a decent full time career in IT.
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Old 07-26-2011, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Precisely what I was thinking - and why the OP potentially could be a set-up to a scam.

Agreed. He isn't asking how they can find someone, he's offering the position, even a plane ticket to who knows where. Fishy, fishy...
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Old 07-26-2011, 03:03 PM
 
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Excellent and true insight into the bungling ineptitude of the average HR department.

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Originally Posted by MSchemist80 View Post
Probably the usual BS that happens when a company hires:

Everyone gets together and decide on what qualifications they would like to have in the new hire.

Let's hire someone with a Master's degree in information systems, A+ certification, CCNA, MCSE, network+, programming in C, Java, 10 years experience working in the finance industry, experience with Proprietary Companies' Widgets plus version 4.56 on a Tuesday.....

Lets make it a contract 1099 position that pays below market rate to save money.

They get 500 applications though none of them meet the original criteria.

So they relax their standards and get 12 or so possibles.

HR decides that 3, are too old, 3 are too inexperienced, 4 they don't like how they sounded on the phone screen.

Next they interview the remaining 2. They don't like how one answered where do you see yourself in 5 years question and the other one did not have a good answer to the what is your greatest weakness question and didn't seem friendly enough.

Now they have no one and they re-advertise the position.

Finally one of the manager's has a golfing buddy that piddles with computers but never worked with Access in their life, but they hire him. He fails spectacularly and they are once again back where they have started.
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