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Old 09-17-2012, 10:10 AM
 
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My old dentist was telling me recently about how at the dental conferences now they are training dentists to be more "entrepreneurial" in selling whitening treatments and excess, unneeded fillings.
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:12 AM
 
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As the world continues to overpopulate while fewer and fewer people continue to control the world's limited wealth and resources, I expect people as a whole to become more unethical and apathetic.
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Ayrsley
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That can mean closing an automotive factory and putting thousands of people out of work who must support their families to save a few million dollars.
How is this "unethical"? Sometimes business owners need to make hard decisions in order to keep the company afloat. For a car manufacturer, what is worse - closing one plant and laying off those workers in order to keep the company profitable and operating, or not cutting costs and eventually having to go bankrupt and fold completely, putting every employee that they have out of work?

And why is the company losing money? Are people simply not buying new cars as often as they used to? Why not blame the general consumer marketplace for not buying more new cars and putting cash into that company to keep them going at full strength?
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Petticoat Junction
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Met one arms dealer and he said..."I saved lives - I armed both sides."

Nice! I will use that line in the future.
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Old 09-17-2012, 04:13 PM
 
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Most unethical: mortgage brokers and debt consolidators / mediators.
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Old 09-17-2012, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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How is this "unethical"? Sometimes business owners need to make hard decisions in order to keep the company afloat. For a car manufacturer, what is worse - closing one plant and laying off those workers in order to keep the company profitable and operating, or not cutting costs and eventually having to go bankrupt and fold completely, putting every employee that they have out of work?

And why is the company losing money? Are people simply not buying new cars as often as they used to? Why not blame the general consumer marketplace for not buying more new cars and putting cash into that company to keep them going at full strength?
Aside from this, "saving" a few million dollar" is not a reasonable estimated number. Try hundreds of millions at least. Labor costs might be in the low millions, but not the financed machinery, taxes, land, building, utilities, and everything else that goes with operating a factory. And if there is no work to be done, what exactly are the workers supposed to do during their shift? You can only clean the factory floor space, organize tooling and wash machinery so many times before it becomes obvious that the factory has no reason to be in operation.

I worked at a place where they had to stop putting the total sales numbers on the board. The workers equated that to profitability, yet no one had a clue how much it was costing the owners to keep the doors open.

Somehow, we are approaching a point where folks consider the business man himself the enemy. Wonder how that ends...
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Old 09-17-2012, 06:25 PM
 
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Somehow, we are approaching a point where folks consider the business man himself the enemy. Wonder how that ends...
It amazes me too. And even more the fact that from all of the countries in the world, this happens more and more often in America than Communist China.

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Old 09-17-2012, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Lehighton/Jim Thorpe area
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How is this "unethical"? Sometimes business owners need to make hard decisions in order to keep the company afloat. For a car manufacturer, what is worse - closing one plant and laying off those workers in order to keep the company profitable and operating, or not cutting costs and eventually having to go bankrupt and fold completely, putting every employee that they have out of work?

And why is the company losing money? Are people simply not buying new cars as often as they used to? Why not blame the general consumer marketplace for not buying more new cars and putting cash into that company to keep them going at full strength?
I agree with this. However, when a company makes a decision to move operations overseas in order to be more profitable I find that unethical. The company's owners are putting people out of work and damaging a local economy, hence going against the great good.

I agree that it isn't fair to vilify all business owners though, just because some people choose profits over people.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:31 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I agree with this. However, when a company makes a decision to move operations overseas in order to be more profitable I find that unethical. The company's owners are putting people out of work and damaging a local economy, hence going against the great good.

I agree that it isn't fair to vilify all business owners though, just because some people choose profits over people.
Aren't they helping another local economy and giving work to other people? How is that unethical?
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Lehighton/Jim Thorpe area
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Aren't they helping another local economy and giving work to other people? How is that unethical?
Because certain industries, when they leave an area that has grown to rely on them for offshoot businesses, etc., create a void in that community that leads to economical collapse.
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