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Old 06-17-2013, 05:32 PM
 
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"That person just got told."

What are you, 13 years old? I hope you don't speak like that in interviews.
Actually, I don't. But I like how you made assumptions about a person you don't even know outside of this thread.
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Old 06-17-2013, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Fort Washington, MD
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Well, I suppose I know this: You have 7 degrees and can't get a job that pays as much as a BS in Finance from a good school, plus a couple of years experience, at my firm.

From your post it seems that although you have a array of degrees, you've never actually worked for a meaningful period in your "primary field". You keep turning those positions down. In reality, your primary field is actually what you are calling your secondary field.
CindyDavis, where are you gleaning this belief that I 'can't get a job that pays as much as a BS in Finance from a good school...'? Did I say how much I made somewhere? I did not. And for the record, my 'secondary' KSA in which I am employed happens to be in Finance, and I make in the near six figure range (personally, I think that's quite respectable given that I am under 30). Simply having a BS in Finance doesn't earn you that type of pay. I'd also like to direct you to the numerous college graduates in finance/accounting/economics in this forum section complaining about the difficulty in even getting an entry-level finance-related position.

Frankly, you have the intelligence of a sniveling adolescent. I really hate to be so crude, but you are just embarassing yourself. Dismiss yourself from this thread.
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Old 06-17-2013, 07:25 PM
 
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CindyDavis, where are you gleaning this belief that I 'can't get a job that pays as much as a BS in Finance from a good school...'? Did I say how much I made somewhere? I did not. And for the record, my 'secondary' KSA in which I am employed happens to be in Finance, and I make in the near six figure range (personally, I think that's quite respectable given that I am under 30). Simply having a BS in Finance doesn't earn you that type of pay. I'd also like to direct you to the numerous college graduates in finance/accounting/economics in this forum section complaining about the difficulty in even getting an entry-level finance-related position.

Frankly, you have the intelligence of a sniveling adolescent. I really hate to be so crude, but you are just embarassing yourself. Dismiss yourself from this thread.
WOW!!!
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Old 06-22-2013, 11:45 AM
 
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The fact of the matter, ladies and gentlemen, is the following corollary:

(1) Employers want the best talent.
(2) Employers want to pay the cheapest salaries.

If you want the best talent, you will have to pay for it. But employers instead are fabricating this belief that there is insufficient numbers of qualified talent. They are simply refusing to pay due compensation to the talent that they wish to have. I love how everyone wants to hate the government for 'no jobs'. Instead, hate the businesses that would rather hire a foreigner that is willing to be paid far less for highly specialized/technical work than we do. Mind blown? Yes.

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Old 06-22-2013, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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The article is total BS from both sides. 40 years ago, employers often trained their own people. They would even have apprentice programs. Today they're all selfish, and want the employees ready to go. But the big government people like this BS too, because then they can cry for even more government spending for education. The middle class continues to be used, abused and exploited by the elites in government, the media and the business community.
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Old 06-22-2013, 04:56 PM
 
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My state has apprenticeship programs, but you have to wait for available openings (currently none) and have to be jobless and either a veteran, felon, disabled or homeless to qualify.

I should go to war, shoot myself in the spine then commit a felony while living on the streets. Then I can get free job placement, and maybe some press.
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Old 06-22-2013, 05:29 PM
 
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Actually it's under qualified and poorly educated prospective employees who are trying to fabricate the case that employers are being too selective, and thus they cannot land the jobs they'd like to have.
The fact of the matter is that many employers use selection criteria that is unrelated to the job at hand and, consequently, has little to no predictive ability of an individual's ability to do the job.
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Old 06-22-2013, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Corona the I.E.
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My state has apprenticeship programs, but you have to wait for available openings (currently none) and have to be jobless and either a veteran, felon, disabled or homeless to qualify.

I should go to war, shoot myself in the spine then commit a felony while living on the streets. Then I can get free job placement, and maybe some press.
No no do a video it will go viral on YT and make some bucks
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Old 06-22-2013, 06:11 PM
 
Location: NJ
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. 40 years ago, employers often trained their own people. They would even have apprentice programs. Today they're all .
doing the right thing in expecting you to believe you are worth investing your own time and money on.
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Old 06-23-2013, 02:14 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Actually it's under qualified and poorly educated prospective employees who are trying to fabricate the case that employers are being too selective, and thus they cannot land the jobs they'd like to have.
REALLY? Have you even looked at jobs recently? Employers ARE selective asking for two years of experience (on average) for entry level jobs and college degrees for administrative assistant jobs. Guess what, prior to the recession these jobs didn't have those requirements.

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The article is total BS from both sides. 40 years ago, employers often trained their own people. They would even have apprentice programs. Today they're all selfish, and want the employees ready to go. But the big government people like this BS too, because then they can cry for even more government spending for education. The middle class continues to be used, abused and exploited by the elites in government, the media and the business community.
This post is too true. Even less than that, we have seen employees who were trained. Now employers want ready made employees to reduce training costs.

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The fact of the matter is that many employers use selection criteria that is unrelated to the job at hand and, consequently, has little to no predictive ability of an individual's ability to do the job.
Yep that is a major reality. Some people just don't see that in la-la land I guess.

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doing the right thing in expecting you to believe you are worth investing your own time and money on.
Yeah this is allI want. Perhaps that is too much to ask for nowadays.
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