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Old 06-26-2013, 12:35 PM
 
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:38 PM
 
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It is - those 40 and older are protected as far as employment discrimination. Well, on paper they are.
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Old 06-26-2013, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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I think it should be for everyone and not just for the older workforce. I think there is unspoken discrimination against younger workers as well. Like say "Last in, First out" rif policies, often are against younger workers who do not have seniority. Source.
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Old 06-26-2013, 02:49 PM
 
Location: East Bay, San Francisco Bay Area
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In my industry, RIF's are based (usually) on performance, and (sometimes) on politics.
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Old 06-26-2013, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Ayrsley
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I think there is unspoken discrimination against younger workers as well.
Everyone seems to think they are discriminated against in someway in the workplace.
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Old 06-26-2013, 03:09 PM
 
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Everyone seems to think they are discriminated against in someway in the workplace.
Cause they are. It's called capitalism.
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Old 06-26-2013, 03:13 PM
 
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In my industry, RIF's are based (usually) on performance, and (sometimes) on politics.
I've seen it happen both ways, even within the same company and same group. It often depends on the motive for the RIF. When it was a general RIF to appease wall street, low performers and trouble makers were definitely targeted first. But a couple of times the RIF has been purely financial in the org, and older workers were definitely targeted. We just lost a team member for the very reason. He was the most senior person in the group, and definitely the highest paid. My boss flat out told me it was cost, which usually == age in most fields.
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Old 06-26-2013, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Corona the I.E.
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It is - those 40 and older are protected as far as employment discrimination. Well, on paper they are.
Exactly on paper. I am in my 40's know that I have been discriminated, but can't prove it, because no one really can. I actually reached out to a recruiter I have worked with, and he said he knows companies that will not hire anyone over 35 for sales and he refused to say who. Now I could prob report him to EEOC, but then I burn a possible resource.
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Old 06-26-2013, 03:57 PM
 
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I think objectivity should be removed. Aptitude tests by simulating the work entailed should determine employability, and you should be given a number rather than something linking to bein physically identifiable. That way employers can't go "we'll he's too young" or "she's too old" or "they're homeless so no."

Remember when Josh Bell did his violin experiment in public? A rich man's performance for free, and nobody cared. Barely received money panhandling in the subway but gets TONS at a venue for the same thing.
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Old 06-26-2013, 04:05 PM
 
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I think objectivity should be removed. Aptitude tests by simulating the work entailed should determine employability, and you should be given a number rather than something linking to bein physically identifiable. That way employers can't go "we'll he's too young" or "she's too old" or "they're homeless so no."

Remember when Josh Bell did his violin experiment in public? A rich man's performance for free, and nobody cared. Barely received money panhandling in the subway but gets TONS at a venue for the same thing.
I agree. Though, I assume you meant subjectivity should be removed. A lot of people are qualified for many jobs but remain unemployed because they don't fit the employer's preconceived notions. (Ie: too old or too young, not the right age, wrong or no degree, wrong university, not enough experience, currently unemployed, employment gaps, physical appearance issues, resume length, live out of the area, etc.)
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