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I agree. Though, I assume you meant subjectivity should be removed. A lot of people are qualified for many jobs but remain unemployed because they don't fit the employer's preconceived notions. (Ie: too old or too young, not the right age, wrong or no degree, wrong university, not enough experience, currently unemployed, employment gaps, physical appearance issues, resume length, live out of the area, etc.)
Everyone seems to think they are discriminated against in someway in the workplace.
That is because they are. You are either too young or too old, too experienced or too inexperienced, and too educated, educated but went for the wrong degree, educated but went to the wrong school or not educated enough. This seems to always happen when you have a low demand with high supply.
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Exactly on paper. I am in my 40's know that I have been discriminated, but can't prove it, because no one really can. I actually reached out to a recruiter I have worked with, and he said he knows companies that will not hire anyone over 35 for sales and he refused to say who. Now I could prob report him to EEOC, but then I burn a possible resource.
That is the problem. Retaliation is hard to prove sometimes and often not by purpose. Take this example. You report him, it removes a recruiter/head hunter from your network. Do it at with a company, you face
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I agree. Though, I assume you meant subjectivity should be removed. A lot of people are qualified for many jobs but remain unemployed because they don't fit the employer's preconceived notions. (Ie: too old or too young, not the right age, wrong or no degree, wrong university, not enough experience, currently unemployed, employment gaps, physical appearance issues, resume length, live out of the area, etc.)
I agree though some is relevant. If you live say 300 miles away from where the position is and you do not mention that you would move for the job, you sink yourself.
I think it should be for everyone and not just for the older workforce. I think there is unspoken discrimination against younger workers as well. Like say "Last in, First out" rif policies, often are against younger workers who do not have seniority. Source.
Seniority is a whole different issue and not related to age.
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Everyone seems to think they are discriminated against in someway in the workplace.
Like others because they are. That is how they decide who will get a job. Discriminating by experience or lack of it, etc.
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Originally Posted by Colorado xxxxx
Exactly on paper. I am in my 40's know that I have been discriminated, but can't prove it, because no one really can. I actually reached out to a recruiter I have worked with, and he said he knows companies that will not hire anyone over 35 for sales and he refused to say who. Now I could prob report him to EEOC, but then I burn a possible resource.
Pretty much everyone that has looked for a job over 40 and had trouble finding one knows this and officials will say it to you and let you know that it is almost impossible to prove. That is what is so funny that people believe if the law in that they cannot be discriminated against that they have "arrived".
Many of the younger workers have the misconception that if they push out older workers, they can perform their job without the education or experience. They are the same ones who don't want seniors to have Social Security or Medicare but don't mess with their inheritance.
It is - those 40 and older are protected as far as employment discrimination. Well, on paper they are.
Then why are employers allowed to actually advertise jobs as "2013 graduates wanted as applicants" for a position? The exact wording in an ad I saw posted today is "seeks recent college graduates (2013) for full time openings." That's certainly not an employer looking to fairly include the 40 and older crowd as candidates for employment.
Then why are employers allowed to actually advertise jobs as "2013 graduates wanted as applicants" for a position? The exact wording in an ad I saw posted today is "seeks recent college graduates (2013) for full time openings." That's certainly not an employer looking to fairly include the 40 and older crowd as candidates for employment.
The truth............is because American is run by Corporations not you and I. And they have deep pockets for lobbyists and legal staff you and I will never have. Off topic but very true IMO.
Then why are employers allowed to actually advertise jobs as "2013 graduates wanted as applicants" for a position? The exact wording in an ad I saw posted today is "seeks recent college graduates (2013) for full time openings." That's certainly not an employer looking to fairly include the 40 and older crowd as candidates for employment.
They are not "allowed". This appears to be a violation of federal law.
Then why are employers allowed to actually advertise jobs as "2013 graduates wanted as applicants" for a position? The exact wording in an ad I saw posted today is "seeks recent college graduates (2013) for full time openings." That's certainly not an employer looking to fairly include the 40 and older crowd as candidates for employment.
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