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Old 10-15-2013, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Amazon sued over 20-minute, unpaid, daily security searches of workers - Washington Times

Does he have a case? It seems reasonable to me that if Amazon orders a worker to undergo a 20 minute security check (presumably most of that time is spent waiting in line), Amazon needs to pay them for that time. On the other hand there are other things done off the clock which if not done, can mean loss of job. For example, the company does not pay workers to take a shower before coming to work, but if a worker decides to stop taking showers, the company could reasonably decide to terminate.
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Old 10-15-2013, 03:16 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Not sure if it is a total of 20 mins a day or 10-20 mins 2-4x everyday. If the latter, it is indeed a considerable amount of time. I see the logic behind considering it either a part of the paid time or somehow being partially compensated.
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Old 10-15-2013, 03:18 PM
 
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They should be paid their time since it's part of the job, but who knows how it will turn out.
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Old 10-15-2013, 03:31 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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From the article:

Their daily routine, NBC reported: Walk through metal detectors at the start of shifts and undergo wand screening, which takes between 10 to 20 minutes to finish. Do the same at the end of work shifts — and again, after clocking out for their 30-minute lunch breaks.

If that's true then it sounds like 4x per day, 40-80 minutes a day or 4-6+ hours a week -- a significant amount.

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Old 10-15-2013, 05:12 PM
 
Location: The DMV
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If you work in an environment where you need to change clothes (factory, Law Enforcement, etc.), does your shift start before or after you go into the locker room?

If you worked on a campus where it takes 10 minutes to get to your work area... should you be paid for those 10 min?
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:31 PM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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It is likely Amazon will lose. Anytime an employer requires you to be present for anything you need to be paid.
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:40 PM
 
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I think I remember Apple going thru a similar suit recently. Will have to do a quick search.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57...ee-bag-checks/
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:47 PM
 
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If you work in an environment where you need to change clothes (factory, Law Enforcement, etc.), does your shift start before or after you go into the locker room?

If you worked on a campus where it takes 10 minutes to get to your work area... should you be paid for those 10 min?
Back in the good old days, no, but I think this has been covered by Federal law for the last 70 years or so. This was a big issue back during the coal mining strikes at the turn of the century. The mines would not pay people until the minute they started digging, yet the process of getting ready and actually getting down in the mine could be a hour or more at the start and end of each shift. I remember this sort of thing was hammered home in my HR classes in college. If you are requiring an employee to do something as part of their job then you need to pay them.
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:34 PM
 
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It is likely Amazon will lose. Anytime an employer requires you to be present for anything you need to be paid.
I think Amazon will prevail. They are simply imposing security procedures entering and exiting their secured premises. This is likely administered by a third party contractor and required of everyone - employees, clients, visitors, etc. Many large companies do this, either at the building or the entrance to the grounds.

Think airport. Is a concessionaire inside the secured area required to begin paying it's employees when they arrive at the security checkpoint?
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:38 PM
 
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Did they have to turn their heads and cough?

Workers are treated like prisoners. They better be paid.

I worked at a Vegas casino, we had to have a clear plastic bag, for a purse. I always felt the employer should provide it...they did not. Rip.

Unions worth every dime.
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