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Personally, as I read this, I felt as though they are making this about gender when it is really an issue of reaching out via email and how much the written word is open to interpretation by the readers. I read what she was requesting as a list of demands as opposed to points to negotiate on. As a female in a field that has been primarily male for the most part, I have been able to successfully negotiate my salary and things that were important to me; however, I had always done so by phone and never by making a list of 5 things I want. Rather, I had two or three things to discuss as opposed to write down what I want and sending off that list.
I felt like she came across as high maintenance and as an employer probably would have thought she would be a liability before she even started.
I agree, and I think their response was appropriate. I don't know anything about this college, but it seems they are looking out for the best of their students, by not hiring someone who only wants to focus on research and the teaching is just something that they feel obligated to do.
Personally, as I read this, I felt as though they are making this about gender when it is really an issue of reaching out via email and how much the written word is open to interpretation by the readers. I read what she was requesting as a list of demands as opposed to points to negotiate on. As a female in a field that has been primarily male for the most part, I have been able to successfully negotiate my salary and things that were important to me; however, I had always done so by phone and never by making a list of 5 things I want. Rather, I had two or three things to discuss as opposed to write down what I want and sending off that list.
I felt like she came across as high maintenance and as an employer probably would have thought she would be a liability before she even started.
That's just my opinion on this, though.
Her counteroffer was basically her doing less teaching, and let come to light the fact that she didn't want to teach. No discrimination here.
Most unreasonable request ever. If you are looking for them (and they didn't come recruit you) they are going to shoot down these completely asinine requests every single time. What a complete jackass this women is, and I hope her pompous ass doesn't get a job anywhere. She acts like these people don't talk to each other.
Most unreasonable request ever. If you are looking for them (and they didn't come recruit you) they are going to shoot down these completely asinine requests every single time. What a complete jackass this women is, and I hope her pompous ass doesn't get a job anywhere. She acts like these people don't talk to each other.
I also thought that was the worst part, too! Somehow, these emails got leaked and I am pretty sure she did it. Therefore, most folks in academia who see this should be able to figure out who it was. That's my guess anyway!
I still don't get her attitude when with the pool of open tenured-track positions for PhD's isn't exactly booming and it's an employer's market still!
I always negotiate. I believe everyone should negotiate regardless of the offer.
With that said, I think the woman in the article made a few mistakes. First mistake was to use email. I don't work in academia but I wonder if what she was asking for would be considered outrageous for academia. Seriously, she asked for pre-tenure sabbatical. Pre-tenure?? A full semester of maternity leave? Does that mean if she had her baby in May, she would get the entire Fall semester off?
I think she probably could have gotten the salary if she didn't make all of those other demands. She forgot she was applying at a small college and not a huge university.
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That's my guess anyway!
