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Old 07-31-2014, 06:47 PM
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it's ok to look at resumes, but they need to look further....

Why We Should Stop Looking At Resumes - Business Insider

"Resumes generally don't distinguish between skills (knowing how to do something) and competencies (doing it really well and with great reliability and ease)," they write.
While resumes still serve as great records of candidates' achievements and skill sets, they place too much emphasis on grades, university reputations, and prior work experience, Tse, Esposito, and Groth say. They contend that in many cases these criteria favor applicants from wealthy backgrounds who can afford to attend expensive universities and take unpaid internships


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Old 07-31-2014, 06:55 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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Ugh, psychometric testing.
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Old 07-31-2014, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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"Resumes generally don't distinguish between skills (knowing how to do something) and competencies (doing it really well and with great reliability and ease)," they write.

What rock have they been living under that they don't know of the switch from task-oriented resumes to achievement-oriented resumes?


This is the second article of this type that just made the writer look foolish.
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Old 07-31-2014, 08:16 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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it's ok to look at resumes, but they need to look further....

Why We Should Stop Looking At Resumes - Business Insider

"Resumes generally don't distinguish between skills (knowing how to do something) and competencies (doing it really well and with great reliability and ease)," they write.
While resumes still serve as great records of candidates' achievements and skill sets, they place too much emphasis on grades, university reputations, and prior work experience, Tse, Esposito, and Groth say. They contend that in many cases these criteria favor applicants from wealthy backgrounds who can afford to attend expensive universities and take unpaid internships

As a hiring manager, I pay no attention to grades or university reputations. We require 3+ years experience, so what they did to gain that experience and what they achieved during that time is what matters most for me in determining who to interview. Skill sets can be exaggerated or made up, and if a degree is required I don't care where they got it as long as their experience demonstrates that they earned the degree. Just another whining "unfair!" article to give people excuses for not being able to compete for a good job.
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Old 08-01-2014, 09:18 AM
 
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On the inverse if someone is wealthy why would they need the job to begin with? The article makes little sense.
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Old 08-01-2014, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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On the inverse if someone is wealthy why would they need the job to begin with? The article makes little sense.
It's just more of the we should change but I don't have the answers for you.
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Old 08-01-2014, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Manhattan, NYC
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it's ok to look at resumes, but they need to look further....

Why We Should Stop Looking At Resumes - Business Insider

"Resumes generally don't distinguish between skills (knowing how to do something) and competencies (doing it really well and with great reliability and ease)," they write.
While resumes still serve as great records of candidates' achievements and skill sets, they place too much emphasis on grades, university reputations, and prior work experience, Tse, Esposito, and Groth say. They contend that in many cases these criteria favor applicants from wealthy backgrounds who can afford to attend expensive universities and take unpaid internships

That's they also conduct interviews and ask about those skills or competencies, right?
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Old 08-01-2014, 10:56 PM
 
Location: southern california
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and your point is that quality schools are a form of discrimination against the poor? anti discrimination demands that employers should hire people with rotten employment backgrounds and lousy schooling? i dont think so.
the final collapse is when the government tells business who they can hire fire and what they can sell and to whom and when and how much.
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Old 08-03-2014, 03:33 AM
 
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I don't see the discrimination here. Once you are done applying for your first job, your GPA doesn't need to be on your resume anymore, in most cases.

While I don't really like resumes, I don't necessarily think that testing would work any better. If anything, it would just create a whole different set of issues.
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Old 08-03-2014, 07:10 AM
 
Location: The DMV
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Title says we should stop looking at resumes.
Then provides shortcomings of not the resume itself as a tool, but how people write them.
But then it says resumes still has benefits.
And then provides a solution that is more akin to the interview.
And it closes by stating that resumes will not be going away, its still a good initial filter.

Thanks to E. Martin for wasting 3 minutes of my life reading this garbage.
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