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Old 08-15-2014, 12:51 PM
 
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More and more large police departments might be requiring college credits; I don't really know if this is the case. However, most police departments are not large police departments. Over 90% of police departments do not require a college degree. There is not a police department in my whole part of Texas (I'm talking several counties) that requires a degree unless you count state openings in the area. The universities/colleges, school districts, cities, counties, transit authorities, airports, city parks, hospital districts, etc. do not require any college credits. The Austin Police Department actually decided to drop its 60 credit hour requirement last year. They were probably having trouble recruiting enough qualified candidates.
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Old 08-15-2014, 12:52 PM
 
Location: East TN
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Many jobs in the utility industry (lineman, underground service locaters, dispatcher, energy specialist, procurement specialist, hydrology tech, etc) don't require any college. I worked for 20 years in the industry (no degree, $45/hr) and know that journey lineman make over $100k when you include their overtime and on-call pay. Many trades such as plumber, construction trades, finish carpenter, electrician (residential and commercial), HVAC, sheet metal, welding, etc. all pay very well after you serve an apprenticeship. Also these are jobs that can go anywhere in the world and there will be a need. Many did face layoffs when the housing/building industry collapsed, but are now in demand again.
I joined the military (USAF) at 21 and the trade I learned there really was not one applicable to civilian life, but the experience I gained was invaluable and has opened many doors over the years.
My friend has been an army reservist. He works fulltime as a reservist flying helicopters for the firefighters and even the police and sheriff as requested. He's even flown military and government VIP's on occasion. He is a fully licensed commercial helicopter and airplane pilot.

Sometimes you have to take a job that is lower than your abilities to get in, and then claw your way up the ladder. People with intelligence and good work ethics are recognized and promoted based upon their abilities, where someone applying from the outside might not even get looked at without the degree. Once employed, take advantage of all training that is made available and take advantage of educational reimbursement to elevate your knowledge of your industry and increase your promotion potential.

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Old 08-15-2014, 01:30 PM
 
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The phone company pays sales office people $26.00 per hour BEFORE sales commission. PLUS full benefits. Plus great vacation benefits including 6 weeks eventually. Plenty of people make 6 figures and my friend who was the top sales person in the office made almost $150K in 2004.

No college required but you MUST have excellent attendance, no tardiness and pass many tests and succeed in class. It is NOT an easy job but to some people it comes naturally. If you have similar experience your starting rate can be higher even at top rate.

You can also move all over into IT, non sales, back office, marketing, statistical analysis/economics, outside tech etc. You can LITERALLY stay in the company your whole life and change careers many many times.

You know...the OLD SCHOOL WAY. They REWARD loyalty still, albeit not as much as before.

They start the class with 15 in AT&T South and hope to graduate 5.

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Old 08-15-2014, 02:15 PM
 
Location: 1000 miles from nowhere
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The phone company pays sales office people $26.00 per hour BEFORE sales commission. PLUS full benefits. Plus great vacation benefits including 6 weeks eventually. Plenty of people make 6 figures and my friend who was the top sales person in the office made almost $150K in 2004.

No college required but you MUST have excellent attendance, no tardiness and pass many tests and succeed in class. It is NOT an easy job but to some people it comes naturally. If you have similar experience your starting rate can be higher even at top rate.

You can also move all over into IT, non sales, back office, marketing, statistical analysis/economics, outside tech etc. You can LITERALLY stay in the company your whole life and change careers many many times.

You know...the OLD SCHOOL WAY. They REWARD loyalty still, albeit not as much as before.

They start the class with 15 in AT&T South and hope to graduate 5.

The "phone company".. do you mean landline phone company? I would feel uncomfortable stepping into that industry.
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Old 08-15-2014, 02:33 PM
 
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The "phone company".. do you mean landline phone company? I would feel uncomfortable stepping into that industry.
Most phone companies offer landline service, internet service, cell service (voice, data, sms). Some of them also offer cable tv service or similar. This post made it to city-data courtesy of a telco. They also have divisions that cater to corporate networkds/data service. It's not the old fashioned phone company of 1970 with land lines and operators. They are involved in VM and email too. Lots of their technologies are cutting edge (good working experience).

Actually - getting a job at any utility (telco, power, water, gas and maybe even cable) is still a good career choice. They pay good for the job you do, you can get promoted and transfer to various jobs/specialties. Often they have tuition assistance if you want to attend college. Some might still have old school pensions. Lots of folks get hired at utilities and stay there many many years.
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Old 08-15-2014, 08:14 PM
 
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Military is laying people off right now.

Oilfield, I agree is a good one.. And, from what I understand, there's not a WHOLE lot of competition for them right now. They're booming and since they're mostly in the Dakotas where not a whole lot of people want to be.. They're having a real hard time getting people... Seriously, some of the companies are doing a SUATMM thing. Even fast food is getting $15/hr up there. Apparently not a high risk of being fired, either, because they can't get people in there fast enough

Now.. The question is.. How long does that fast and easy money last? How long does your body take it, because I believe that is a fairly physically demanding job.

Oh.. "SUATMM = Shut Up And Take My Money"
Most of the oil jobs are in Texas not the Dakotas. There are more oil field workers in one corner of Texas than both Dakotas put together.

http://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/x...s+In+Rig+Count
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According to the Baker Hughes Rig Count, Texas still leads the nation in number of drilling rigs with 821 rigs compared to 176 in its closest U.S. rival state. With 821 rigs, Texas alone comprises 47% of U.S. rigs and 24% of all drilling rigs worldwide.

Texas: 821
Oklahoma: 176
North Dakota: 163
South Dakota: 1

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Old 08-15-2014, 08:28 PM
 
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Since there seems to be plenty of people on this board that think you need a college degree or your life is over, here is a list of the top paying jobs based on a study by careerbuilder, they found that 115 different types of jobs pay over $20 an hour, and these are the top 20.

Best-Paying Jobs For High School Grads - Business Insider
One thing to keep in mind is that these people with only high school diplomas occupying these "high-paying jobs" likely got them when the economy was good and employers were hiring anyone who could stand on two feet and breathe through their nose due to the low rate of unemployment.

So basically, this data isn't very useful for graduates in the post-recession economy.
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Old 08-15-2014, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Eastern Colorado
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One thing to keep in mind is that these people with only high school diplomas occupying these "high-paying jobs" likely got them when the economy was good and employers were hiring anyone who could stand on two feet and breathe through their nose due to the low rate of unemployment.

So basically, this data isn't very useful for graduates in the post-recession economy.
From my understanding these are based on jobs that are advertising for employees now, fact is there are plenty of excuses on why someone cannot get a job, but there are jobs out there that pay well, even if they take training or certifications, you do not have to go to college and end up with $100k in student loans.
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Old 08-15-2014, 08:44 PM
 
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Most of the oil jobs are in Texas not the Dakotas. There are more oil field workers in one corner of Texas than both Dakotas put together.

Baker Hughes Rig Count Shows Texas Far Ahead Of Other U.S. States In Rig Count - Energy and Natural Resources - United States
That's true to a point but from what I hear North Dakota is MUCH further in oil production then south. The rig count has not really changed in ND however they seem to be running one. Make some discover for another so the towns keep booming but the rest doesn't really change.

Personally I'd argue if they thought it was going to last you'd see housing startup and people having families. Instead there's man camps and temporary workers knee deep in debt looking to get get easy money.
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Old 08-15-2014, 09:49 PM
 
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Why on earth would you want to skip college?
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