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Old 02-01-2015, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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I don't think the United States will die anytime soon. We'll be around as a nation to see when labor rates across the globe hit an equilibrium.
What if cost of living doesn't also hit an equilibrium?
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Old 02-01-2015, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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My position is that outsourcing does more good than bad for this nation. Your position is that it's a "huge problem". What is your solution? Eliminate all Doctors, Lawyers, Construction Workers, Plumbers, Electricians, Engineers, Architects, Landscaping, Accountants, etc. that make their living off of outsourcing? Are these jobs no longer required for our society to function? Are they not contributing to our society? If you take all these jobs away, America is going to be in a much worse place than it is today.

If you look at the nation historically, we've became an economic superpower because of our ability to outsource efficiently. Companies can focus on their specialties (in terms of products and services) and outsource unrelated work (such as accounting and maintenance). It would be near impossible for a small business to function if they couldn't outsource these services. Keeping a Lawyer, Accountant, Landscaper, Electrician, Plumber, etc. on staff full time would make it impossible for a small business to succeed.
People are complaining about OFFSHORE outsourcing. Even though some just refer to it as "outsourcing." You are taking that literally. Don't.
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Old 02-01-2015, 03:52 PM
 
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We already do have that to a point. CEO's don't exactly make companies broke. Most of the costs of a business would probably be with health care and benefits since it is harder to control. You hire someone that is healthy and then they say get cancer. The insurance has to pay for cancer meds and that comes with a cost. Sure we can try to limit aliments with health programs and wellness programs but it ultimately still can happen.

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Keep in mind he did come to the USA and graduate here. He certainly earned the 11 fold increase in pay from making the cloud computing by 4 billion. Reminds me when Ben and Jerry's was looking for a new CEO and they quickly found out that if you do not pay enough the quality frankly won't show up.

Not everything can be exactly budgeted. How can you budget for a discovery? Here's 5 million to a drug company. Ok nothing found do you fund it again or cancel?

Remember the developing world is developing so you still have to end up paying unemployment, medical/dental, disability, workmans comp, retirement plans, maturity leave etc. The savings of outsourcing is not that high as what it once was.There are times when you do need to pay a outside contractor or consultant but frankly it does not require going overseas. The costs of operating an organization vary dramatically in the USA. Just look at why Quicken loans went to Detroit instead of Brazil. At the end of the day it would have only been 15% lower so why bother going?
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Old 02-02-2015, 09:54 AM
 
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A problem

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Old 02-02-2015, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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Offshoring in IT = bad.
H1Bs in IT = bad.
The reason there is so much offshoring and H1B in high tech is not because companies are saving money doing it (they don't, they end up paying the same salaries), but because there is not enough labor here in the U.S. to supply the need.
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Old 02-05-2015, 04:59 PM
 
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The reason there is so much offshoring and H1B in high tech is not because companies are saving money doing it (they don't, they end up paying the same salaries), but because there is not enough labor here in the U.S. to supply the need.
I'm pretty sure that this is commonly known.
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Old 02-05-2015, 08:47 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Management can be easily outsourced but yet nobody has done it because the ones in CHARGE will not let it happen.

It's all about power and politics.
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Old 02-05-2015, 08:50 PM
 
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Management can be easily outsourced but yet nobody has done it because the ones in CHARGE will not let it happen.

It's all about power and politics.
On the contrary, management is outsourced all the time. Ever heard of management consulting? That's what the "Big Three" do.
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Old 02-06-2015, 07:44 AM
 
Location: NYC
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On the contrary, management is outsourced all the time. Ever heard of management consulting? That's what the "Big Three" do.
Yes, that when current management team is incompetent and they get temp consultants to come in and do the management work and leave.
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Old 02-06-2015, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Metro NYC
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The reason there is so much offshoring and H1B in high tech is not because companies are saving money doing it (they don't, they end up paying the same salaries), but because there is not enough labor here in the U.S. to supply the need.
Wrong:

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