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Old 03-31-2015, 01:59 PM
 
Location: The Carolinas
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Yeah everyone who applies need a paycheck but I not only need it for necessities. Tbh right now I don't really need it for that reason actually. My mom pays the bills so I'm not in a dire situation but I do need a job to be happy with myself and it'd be hard to find someone who needs a job for this reason as bad as I do.


I was trying to explain this to the guy at Petco that one time I applied how my desperation for how much I wanted it was a good thing but I know for a fact all he saw was that I was about to cry and I tried my best not to.

I wish employers would see it from my side . . .

Employers can smell this from a mile away. As well as desperation.

They're looking for people in that "middle ground". Kinda need it, but aren't desperate. Sort of like dating.
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Old 03-31-2015, 02:27 PM
 
Location: LA, CA/ In This Time and Place
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No it comes off as needy and pathetic, and makes you look vulnerable. Employers should show they care about the job, yet they have other options also.

I see it like dating, no matter how into the person you are, do not beg or hint that you are desperate. Never give someone the sense that you need them badly, whether a potential employer or date.

Show what you can give and see what decision they make. Then move from there.

I know it is frustrating but begging is not the way. Some may hire you, but those are tiny minority.
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Old 03-31-2015, 03:29 PM
 
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As someone that hired a lot of people back in my working days, if someone begged for a job, they are through as of that moment.

Reason: You will always feel they are a whiney, begging person, who instead of proving they are the person for the job just goes around begging for the job, and will if hired always be a whiney begging person to try to cover up the problems they face.

The HM will run away, not walk away from you. No one wants that type of employee.
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Old 03-31-2015, 04:12 PM
 
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This reminds me of an old George Carlin routine where he explains how to really say "please" -- most people just say "please?" in a wimpy, quiet voice. Instead you should say:

"Pleeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaase!!!!!" (drawn out over about 20 seconds)
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Old 03-31-2015, 04:58 PM
 
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Do you really think hiring managers who don't know you care about your feelings that much. It's business.
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Old 03-31-2015, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Am I the only one who thinks we'll wake up tomorrow and find out this was all an April Fool's joke, done early?
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Old 03-31-2015, 06:17 PM
 
Location: The Northeast - hoping one day the Northwest!
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If you read my other post I have having some serious troubles with a boss who tells me that I am a poor performer but won't give me any details on exactly what I am doing wrong. I expect my days are numbered at my current employer.

So I need a new job fast. Not just a job but a career type position that will cover my bills.

I was told that most hiring managers will hire someone if they show they really- really- really want the job. So I should beg and plead for the job and I will be hired? Play to their emotions. Tell them I would really like and respect them if they would hire me. Is that a plan?
Begging would only be worse. I used to pre-screen potential employees to ensure they met the criteria. The ones that did were sent over to the hiring manager. I don't mind people following up, that is understandable but when potential employees were following up every day it was so annoying. One time, I was on vacation and my voice mail message indicated that I was out of the office.... this one person filled up my voice mail. Then he proceeded to call the mail office as well to try to reach me for the status.

Yes, I understand that you need a job, but you also need to respect the hiring manager. Begging can show a lack of respect.

Begging does not show that you really want the job, a good interview and a good and positive attitude is all you need.
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Old 03-31-2015, 08:00 PM
 
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If you read my other post I have having some serious troubles with a boss who tells me that I am a poor performer but won't give me any details on exactly what I am doing wrong. I expect my days are numbered at my current employer.

So I need a new job fast. Not just a job but a career type position that will cover my bills.

I was told that most hiring managers will hire someone if they show they really- really- really want the job. So I should beg and plead for the job and I will be hired? Play to their emotions. Tell them I would really like and respect them if they would hire me. Is that a plan?
You want to trick them or play them?...Not exactly a quality an employer desires in a new hire. Just be yourself,relax..As for the beg and plead deal,,Whoever told you that? Just remember they know you better than you know them...Personally I'd dismiss you on the spot..Be neat,clean,crisp and attentive while being yourself....That's self assuredness,,,a desirable quality...
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Old 03-31-2015, 08:52 PM
 
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No no no, you need to prove your worth. What do you bring to this role. What value do you add? That's how to do it.

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Old 03-31-2015, 10:13 PM
 
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Employers can smell this from a mile away. As well as desperation.

They're looking for people in that "middle ground". Kinda need it, but aren't desperate. Sort of like dating.
Well if I want a job I really want it. Being independent is too important to me to just let go. Neurotypical people **** me off. They don't get it. Middle ground is not in my vocabulary. I've been trying to just go numb. Maybe they'll want me then if I don't really care. Seems like companies hire a lot of people who don't care for their jobs and even then if they don't hire me I won't care so I can't get hurt.

Also I don't date so I wouldn't know what that's like.

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