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Since all of my family lives on Long Island, I am not interested in living anywhere other than Long Island or New York City. So, around here, nearly all of the civil engineering firms are in the city, but they do not pay nearly enough to live in or near the city.
Why do you say my posts are weird? What do I post that makes you think that I never worked in civil engineering? I most definitely work in civil engineering, and I have no idea what causes you to make such an accusation.
If you were at all familiar with Long Island, you would know that $95,000 is barely a living wage here, if it even is at all. As I keep saying, the posters on the Long Island forum keep telling me that one I have a kid, I do not make enough money to be able to afford to live here.
If you were at all familiar with New York City, you would know that $95,000 is not a living wage there at all.
I think maybe our disagreements have to do more with you knowing absolutely nothing about Long Island or New York City.
Ok. Let's assume $95k is barely a living wage for an individual living in Long Island, NY. Getting back to the topic of this thread, why did you say in post 29 that the starting salary for teachers should be minimum wage?
Since all of my family lives on Long Island, I am not interested in living anywhere other than Long Island or New York City. So, around here, nearly all of the civil engineering firms are in the city, but they do not pay nearly enough to live in or near the city.
Why do you say my posts are weird? What do I post that makes you think that I never worked in civil engineering? I most definitely work in civil engineering, and I have no idea what causes you to make such an accusation.
If you were at all familiar with Long Island, you would know that $95,000 is barely a living wage here, if it even is at all. As I keep saying, the posters on the Long Island forum keep telling me that one I have a kid, I do not make enough money to be able to afford to live here.
If you were at all familiar with New York City, you would know that $95,000 is not a living wage there at all.
I think maybe our disagreements have to do more with you knowing absolutely nothing about Long Island or New York City.
I live in the NYC area and have most of my life, including stints in Manhattan itself.
I suggest you broaden your horizons. That's it. No more from me.
But even if you have to pay a premium for the health insurance, at least it is available to you. For most of us, unless we are working, health insurance is not available for any price.
BS - Health insurance is available at some price. It may be high but it is available.
This discussion is silly - There are too many differences across the country for a single 'one size fits all' question like this
Ok. Let's assume $95k is barely a living wage for an individual living in Long Island, NY. Getting back to the topic of this thread, why did you say in post 29 that the starting salary for teachers should be minimum wage?
First of all, the consensus on this board, every time I post, is that civil engineers living on Long Island or in New York City do not deserve a living wage. If I do not deserve a living wage, then why do teachers deserve a living wage?
(and I'm talking about a family, not an individual. Not that it matters)
BS - Health insurance is available at some price. It may be high but it is available.
This discussion is silly - There are too many differences across the country for a single 'one size fits all' question like this
If something is priced beyond what most people can afford, it is de facto unavailable. If the cheapest car cost $1 billion, then cars are de facto unavailable for nearly all people.
First of all, the consensus on this board, every time I post, is that civil engineers living on Long Island or in New York City do not deserve a living wage. If I do not deserve a living wage, then why do teachers deserve a living wage?
(and I'm talking about a family, not an individual. Not that it matters)
I went back through and didn't see where anybody said you don't deserve a living wage.
The OP's question was about average starting teacher salaries. You deserve a living wage and teachers deserve one also. $95,000k is barely a living wage, so again, considering that and the COL where you are, what do you think the starting salary for teachers should be? Let's even entertain what you think your salary should be. I'm assuming you would at minimum put them each at the bottom range of what would be considered a living wage.
BS - Health insurance is available at some price. It may be high but it is available.
This discussion is silly - There are too many differences across the country for a single 'one size fits all' question like this
This was my thought also. My insurance is through Kaiser Permanente. When I retire I can keep it, but I have to pay the full monthly premium. Sure it's pricey. Couldn't anyone pick up basically the same health plan and pay the monthly cost?
I went back through and didn't see where anybody said you don't deserve a living wage.
The OP's question was about average starting teacher salaries. You deserve a living wage and teachers deserve one also. $95,000k is barely a living wage, so again, considering that and the COL where you are, what do you think the starting salary for teachers should be? Let's even entertain what you think your salary should be. I'm assuming you would at minimum put them each at the bottom range of what would be considered a living wage.
It was in other threads where people don't feel I deserve a living wage. Check out just about every thread I've ever posted in.
I deserve more money than teachers do, since I work longer hours than they do (yes, I am aware that they do work outside the classroom, but I still work longer hours than them), I don't get the benefits and job security that they get, and most teachers wouldn't even be able to work at McDonalds.
This was my thought also. My insurance is through Kaiser Permanente. When I retire I can keep it, but I have to pay the full monthly premium. Sure it's pricey. Couldn't anyone pick up basically the same health plan and pay the monthly cost?
No, since anybody getting insurance through their employer gets a group rate, which is much cheaper than what individuals pay. And, individuals with even minor medical problems can't get insurance at all, or now with Obamacare, only for ridiculous prices that nobody can afford. Obamacare is a scam.
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