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I think he can't accept the pay cut that comes with it.
I mean weekends off, benefits, retirement, union protection from all the bull**** private sector deals with, I could go on but Civil Engineers and Computer techs always are happy here.
Well, I've never had union protection but the rest of those things, yes. And yes, the money is a cut from a consulting/private standpoint. But then I don't have to work 60 hour weeks!
I think perhaps you have some other reason for not applying to government positions. I'll admit their processes can be daunting and time consuming. But the jobs are out there.
They may post jobs, but they will hire somebody from within.
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I think he can't accept the pay cut that comes with it.
I mean weekends off, benefits, retirement, union protection from all the bull**** private sector deals with, I could go on but Civil Engineers and Computer techs always are happy here.
Actually, the government pays more than my private sector job does. So I would be getting a pay increase if I was able to get a government job. So you are wrong.
They may post jobs, but they will hire somebody from within.
Actually, the government pays more than my private sector job does. So I would be getting a pay increase if I was able to get a government job. So you are wrong.
So why the problem with entry level government jobs then :P? if its high paying?
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They may post jobs, but they will hire somebody from within.
You can't possibly know that.
And I know for a fact you are wrong. I'm living proof of it.
Look, I'm not trying to badger you. But I am trying to tell you (and potential readers) that there are government jobs out there for experienced engineers. Your experiences are yours alone and are not the status quo for all public sector engineering jobs.
Well, I've never had union protection but the rest of those things, yes. And yes, the money is a cut from a consulting/private standpoint. But then I don't have to work 60 hour weeks!
I make about the same amount of money as a Civil Engineer thanks to our unions.
They fight to keep us happy and getting us raises.
For someone highly skilled and wanting to get rich thou its not a good place
I make about the same amount of money as a Civil Engineer thanks to our unions.
They fight to keep us happy and getting us raises.
For someone highly skilled and wanting to get rich thou its not a good place
The union here got us work boots! LOL And I'm very appreciative of that.
No, you won't get rich but I really do like the kinds of projects I get to design and see completed. I like having the sense of accomplishment in having a positive impact on my community.
Money isn't everything.
mitsguy, if you don't mind me asking, where do you live?
So why the problem with entry level government jobs then :P?
They would say I am "overqualified".
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The union here got us work boots! LOL And I'm very appreciative of that.
No, you won't get rich but I really do like the kinds of projects I get to design and see completed. I like having the sense of accomplishment in having a positive impact on my community.
Money isn't everything.
mitsguy, if you don't mind me asking, where do you live?
I make about the same amount of money as a Civil Engineer thanks to our unions.
They fight to keep us happy and getting us raises.
For someone highly skilled and wanting to get rich thou its not a good place
Yeah I've noticed something similar.
My impression is that unionized workforces benefit jobs like police and fire tremendously, but that it leaves very little money left over for professional staff like engineers, developers, IT, etc.
I've looked at some salaries in my field with NYC and Philadelphia, and they are comically low. So low I wouldn't even consider applying. In a number of job applications I was looking at in my field, it seemed you can earn more working for a city or county in rural South Carolina than you could with the City of NYC. And that's not even considering the huge gulf in cost of living.
My impression is that unionized workforces benefit jobs like police and fire tremendously, but that it leaves very little money for professional staff like engineers, developers, IT, etc.
I've looked at some salaries in my field with NYC and Philadelphia, and they are comically low.
I'm in it for the quality of life not money thou.
The quality of life is definitely amazing, where I work at.
But I know many IT folks and Engineer who knew that their pay cap is very limited and you can't exceed a certain amount after a period of time.
On the bright side, we are helping kids and parents always with forwarding their technology needs to get a quality education
Obviously, you would know that area and it's challenges. I suspect it may be more competitive there than in other areas.
You might consider checking out the local chapter of APWA. Maybe see about some of their events and stuff. That might get you some networking opportunities for an "in" for government work.
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