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Old 08-26-2016, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Yakima yes, an apartment!
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As a manager, I fond the following to be normal in our corporate environment:

1. 50% of employees did the required work and did it well.

2. 10% of employees did not meet the standards.

3. 20% exceeded expectation.

4. 10% far exceeded expectation.

During any downsizing or layoff the 10% that did not measure up are gone. This is also the reason no one wants to hire the first round of layoffs. Every corporation has about 8% to 10% dead weight at any given time.
I agree with this up to a point. I'd say No 4 is 5% and the 3 is 10% (Or less)

But that's what MOVES the company. Not every employee is a superstar, nor will ever be nor paid as such.

To read some responses, we should all be stomping on each other to show how bad we want that big paycheck, eliminating the competition by all means and basically screwing others for nothing more than a shiny coin....That gets taken away when you die.

Is that what we all are here for?, I quit that kind of thinking years ago....
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Old 08-26-2016, 12:11 PM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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In a perfect world, going above and beyond your job scope shows you take initiative to do other things to contribute to the company. That usually goes noticed very well, and will factor into the company's decision to invest more in you.
In my opinion going above and beyond for an employer that treats you like crap simply reinforces bad behavior. Why should they pay Chemists more than $15 an hour if they can get people for that and those people are motivated and do an excellent job for it as opposed to getting fresh grads who grow more and more disengaged and leave or stay do a poor or mediocre job.
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Old 08-26-2016, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles CA
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I haven't read the whole thread, but I suspect most of the responses will say, "It's your obligation to do your best," "You owe whatever to the company," blah blah blah. I don't think so though. So far I haven't found a reason to. Raises and other perks seem to be random, but I have found that having a good attitude helps you get promotions and a raise. You should do the bare minimum, however, or you are at risk of getting fired.
Technically can't you do good enough NOT to get fired?
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Old 08-26-2016, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles CA
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Because just putting in your time and doing the bare minimum is boring and you want to be doing something else a few years from now.

If that is not true, forget I said anything, and carry on.
But wait doesn't every job get boring AT SOME POINT?
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Old 08-26-2016, 12:34 PM
 
Location: On the road
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But wait doesn't every job get boring AT SOME POINT?
Well, sure, on occasion, you have to deal with a little boring. But you don't have to make a career of it.
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Old 08-26-2016, 01:03 PM
 
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Why should I?
I get paid the same at the end of the day weather I do more or less work so why should I right?
You shouldn't; many companies have a need for people with no ambition who want to stagnate in the same position indefinitely. This is especially true in service industries, helpdesks and similar where otherwise good or great employees are happy just doing what their job description says, nothing more. The result is consistently well rated customer-facing service, as opposed to a cycle of poor service from new hires who don't have the experience, that ultimately turns to good service with experience, but then they either request a transfer or resign for a better opportunity, leaving the manager to start over with a new hire, costing customer service and causing new training expenses. Many managers love employees who don't want to go the extra mile.
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Old 08-26-2016, 02:55 PM
 
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Why should I?
I get paid the same at the end of the day weather I do more or less work so why should I right?
I feel that I always go above and beyond but seldom do supervisors notice. I guess I do it for myself because being "adequate" doesn't suit me. I like to go home feeling that I have accomplished something, and I believe in the old adage that "a job worth doing is worth doing well".

I guess I can't really put "I gave 110%" at this job or that job on my resume - but in my heart, I know that I did. And every once in awhile, I have had a supervisor who did notice my extra efforts, and though I did not always get raises or amazing accolades, sometimes that pat on the back went a long way.

In essence, at the end of the day, our expectation of ourselves is what truly matters.
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Old 08-26-2016, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Richmond VA
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If you go above and beyond, what is the employers motivation to promote you? Because they are already getting more work out of you than they are paying you for.

I'm just playing devil's advocate here, but I have seen it happen.
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Old 08-26-2016, 08:41 PM
 
Location: 89434
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In a perfect world, going above and beyond your job scope shows you take initiative to do other things to contribute to the company. That usually goes noticed very well, and will factor into the company's decision to invest more in you.
There's lots of posts on here from people who have gone above and beyond and they got passed over for a promotion and/or raise. Anyone can do 110 percent everyday but that may or may not make a difference when the company wants to invest more in you.
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Old 08-26-2016, 09:15 PM
 
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Why should I?
I get paid the same at the end of the day weather I do more or less work so why should I right?
you don't have to....but can you ever aspire to greatness if you dont?
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