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Old 10-19-2016, 05:42 AM
 
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That is correct. In a right to work state you can be fired with no reason what's so ever! It sucks, but it is what it is!
No, read previous comments which explain the difference.
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Old 10-19-2016, 09:14 AM
 
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That is correct. In a right to work state you can be fired with no reason what's so ever! It sucks, but it is what it is!
The above post is why we need to open up the visa quotas to allow more foreigners into the country. The above demonstrates the ignorance of the american worker who is great at complaining about employers but can't do the most basic research to get their statements correct. Not only do they repeat false information, they are proud of their own stupidity to the point of posting it. I have never heard a foreigner confuse Right-to-Work with At-Will; they at least learn the facts before they open their mouths.
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Old 10-19-2016, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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That is correct. In a right to work state you can be fired with no reason what's so ever! It sucks, but it is what it is!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! NO.

Fired for no reason is EMPLOYMENT AT WILL - 49 states are "employment at will". Employment At Will is not a law. It is a doctrine. In Montana they need "just cause" after six months on the job.

RIGHT TO WORK STATE means you cannot be forced to join a union in order to get a job.

Currently there is 26 states with Right to Work laws.
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Old 10-19-2016, 09:52 AM
 
Location: West of Asheville
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6 years ago??? Let it go.

Too many good things get pushed aside when you are angry and vengeful.
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Old 10-19-2016, 10:53 AM
 
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I don't understand the arguments over "right to work". That essentially means you have a right to not have union protection. Not having union protection means you can be fired without just cause...which is pretty much what the OP is complaining about.
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Old 10-19-2016, 12:11 PM
 
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Lets be honest. Today unions in the private sector only cover 6.7% of all employees. Union membership has been cut in half in just a few years and very week today. In a few years from now at the current trends, they will be a thing of the past.
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Old 10-19-2016, 02:50 PM
 
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I don't understand the arguments over "right to work". That essentially means you have a right to not have union protection. Not having union protection means you can be fired without just cause...which is pretty much what the OP is complaining about.
The OP was specifically about AT WILL Employment but the person failed miserably to do the most basic research and instead went off using the phrase Right To Work by mistake. When confronted with the reality of their mistake, a lame attempt was made to try and twist it that it was about union membership instead of just saying "oops". So pathetic!
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Old 10-20-2016, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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I don't understand the arguments over "right to work". That essentially means you have a right to not have union protection. Not having union protection means you can be fired without just cause...which is pretty much what the OP is complaining about.
It is because some believe "right to work state means they can fire you at anytime without just cause.

The confuse RTW with "employment at will"

Union or not, if a private sector employer wants you off their payroll it will happen.
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Old 10-20-2016, 03:43 PM
 
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Question: Why should an employer, have to keep an employee that they were unhappy with, or uncomfortable about that person working for them?

In the opinion of about anyone I know, if either an employer or employee is unhappy with any person working for another, the unhappy person should have the right and ability to end the relationship.

An employer, should not be required to keep an employee they are not satisfied with, any more than any employee who is not satisfied with an employer should not be required to stay as an employee against their will.

What is good for one, should always be the same for the other.
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Old 10-20-2016, 04:09 PM
 
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Question: Why should an employer, have to keep an employee that they were unhappy with, or uncomfortable about that person working for them?

In the opinion of about anyone I know, if either an employer or employee is unhappy with any person working for another, the unhappy person should have the right and ability to end the relationship.

An employer, should not be required to keep an employee they are not satisfied with, any more than any employee who is not satisfied with an employer should not be required to stay as an employee against their will.

What is good for one, should always be the same for the other.
This is such a simple concept. It's a shame that so many just don't get it.
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