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My employer has sunk to a new low. Now when you take sick time, you are not paid for the entire day, even if you worked half the day. But you still have to work half the day if the supervisor does not give you permission to take the whole day off. You just won't get paid anything. How this is even legal, I don't understand. Moreover, if you work extra to cover for someone who is taking time off, you are paid at a lower rate than what you are normally paid.
So if you make 15/hour and work a four hour day and then go home sick, you are paid nothing. The person who works the second half of your 4 hour shift makes 10/hour, even if they are normally paid 15. So the company has now made a profit of 80 dollars on your half day off. If you make up your hours by covering for someone else, you are paid the 10/hour rate. And no, there is no reason why leaving early costs the company money or negates your earlier work or anything like that.
My employer has sunk to a new low. Now when you take sick time, you are not paid for the entire day, even if you worked half the day. But you still have to work half the day if the supervisor does not give you permission to take the whole day off. You just won't get paid anything. How this is even legal, I don't understand. Moreover, if you work extra to cover for someone who is taking time off, you are paid at a lower rate than what you are normally paid.
So if you make 15/hour and work a four hour day and then go home sick, you are paid nothing. The person who works the second half of your 4 hour shift makes 10/hour, even if they are normally paid 15. So the company has now made a profit of 80 dollars on your half day off. If you make up your hours by covering for someone else, you are paid the 10/hour rate. And no, there is no reason why leaving early costs the company money or negates your earlier work or anything like that.
I can't even.
I also can't even....but I am sure you got this wrong, one must be paid for the time they work. Perhaps a deep breath, and a polite conversation with your manager on the working of sick time vs. pay will sort this out for you.
I also can't even....but I am sure you got this wrong, one must be paid for the time they work. Perhaps a deep breath, and a polite conversation with your manager on the working of sick time vs. pay will sort this out for you.
It's not legal as you are describing it. Employers must pay for all time worked. Maybe you misunderstand the policy.
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I also can't even....but I am sure you got this wrong, one must be paid for the time they work. Perhaps a deep breath, and a polite conversation with your manager on the working of sick time vs. pay will sort this out for you.
The height of hilarity on this forum.
OP, you're clearly wrong and don't understand anything. Employers/managers NEVER abuse the system.
Furthers my point that this forum is extremely skewed towards the favor of employers. This IS NOT a good place for advice if you're an employee. You will only be chastised.
OP, you're clearly wrong and don't understand anything. Employers/managers NEVER abuse the system.
Furthers my point that this forum is extremely skewed towards the favor of employers. This IS NOT a good place for advice if you're an employee. You will only be chastised.
Nobody was chastising him. Strictly stating that he may be mistaken.
Laws are laws. It seems pretty reasonable that the OP may have confused how it all works since as he describes it, it would be illegal. I think the advice of checking again to confirm the policy is the best plan of action. If that policy is as he understands it to be then indeed he should call his local department of labor. An employer can be fined heavily by the DOL and will be ordered to cough up back pay for everyone affected so I doubt many employers would risk operating illegally for such a small gain. Most companies do operate within the confines of the law so I don't think it's unreasonable to assume the OP might be mistaken.
Most likely, the policy is that if you take a half day you now only get paid for half a day whereas before you would get paid for the full day if you showed up at all.
Sounds like some folks were abusing the system. They'd come in for an hour 'be sick' and go home and were getting paid for the full day.
My employer has sunk to a new low. Now when you take sick time, you are not paid for the entire day, even if you worked half the day. But you still have to work half the day if the supervisor does not give you permission to take the whole day off. You just won't get paid anything. How this is even legal, I don't understand. Moreover, if you work extra to cover for someone who is taking time off, you are paid at a lower rate than what you are normally paid.
So if you make 15/hour and work a four hour day and then go home sick, you are paid nothing. The person who works the second half of your 4 hour shift makes 10/hour, even if they are normally paid 15. So the company has now made a profit of 80 dollars on your half day off. If you make up your hours by covering for someone else, you are paid the 10/hour rate. And no, there is no reason why leaving early costs the company money or negates your earlier work or anything like that.
I can't even.
If what you're saying is accurate, what your employer is doing is illegal.
Are you absolutely sure you understand the policy?
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I agree that it makes no sense and appears to be illegal, but if you are talking about "4 hour shifts" then it sounds like a company using a lot of part-time people. Working extra to cover for someone is not overtime if they are not going over 40 hours in a week, and stupid as it sounds, paying less is not illegal as long as it's over the minimum wage. There are small businesses with owners that don't understand the law, or will try to take advantage and hope to get away with it, but it's hard to imagine any employer docking you for the whole day when you took two hours off but worked two hours.
I agree that it makes no sense and appears to be illegal, but if you are talking about "4 hour shifts" then it sounds like a company using a lot of part-time people. Working extra to cover for someone is not overtime if they are not going over 40 hours in a week, and stupid as it sounds, paying less is not illegal as long as it's over the minimum wage. There are small businesses with owners that don't understand the law, or will try to take advantage and hope to get away with it, but it's hard to imagine any employer docking you for the whole day when you took two hours off but worked two hours.
That part.. What it sounds like, and i'm guessing at all this.. I really doubt the OP is accurate in describing what is happening.. But..
Let's say you have a call center, and group "A" takes calls for Home Appliances and is a $10/hr position. Group "B" takes PC/Laptop calls and makes $15/hr.. If someone from the Laptop department covers a shift in Home Appliances, they're not paid $15/hr, but $10/hr
Which.. That is not illegal.. But is kinda dirty.. Unless again, there was some kind of abuse going on. If you're covering a lower paid position, they're saying don't expect to get paid your normal rate.. That would just bite them in the ass, because they'd be short people, because the higher paid folks won't want to cover the lower paid folks. Basically starting a class warfare in the office.
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