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since obamacare came in under a "tax" program, its ability to be regulated is plausible.
Yes I think some entity should step in and "cap" certain procedures and the extreme inflation of pricing for items while being a patient.
Unfortunately, that's a bit like squeezing a balloon. The providers charge more for something else, and they have to to cover THEIR administrative costs.
The root cause of the problem is the massive administrative burden of the system.
I don't know the answer. Perhaps integrated systems such as Kaiser Permanente where the same entity insures and provides service. That has its own problems, of course.
There are some, yes, I think like Stroger Hospital in Chicago. Free medical care for the poor. Instead, the US is filled with greedy "For Profit Hospitals," plus I suspect many hospitals or private practices greedily cheat the Medicare and Insurance Companies.
Now if there were a lot of US Government Hospitals taking Medicare, Medicaid, and Veterans - that would really lower costs for Medicare and Medicaid from being milked by private hospital and dental agencies...
Were US Government Hospitals once a popular thing in the past, or maybe that's something I'm suggesting now as a solution to the high cost of Medical Insurance...
In fact, with the problems of Obamacare and the uninsurable, there probably should be a lot more US Government Hospitals. Building them, setting them up, and employing people in this manner would be a good partial economic stimulus.
I lived in the Philippines for 1.5 years by now, and the Philippines has Government Hospitals to take care of the poor for free or a very low fee. Not as high tech equipment as America but they get you by.
This could go in the Humor section. Have you heard of the VA scandals? Do you know that about half of the federal budget is waste, fraud, and abuse?
Greedy corporations! The only thing worse is greedy monopolistic government outfits who make the rules, break the rules, and prosecute anyone who objects.
And government does not create wealth. Where do you think the magic money to build all this stuff comes from? Santa? Easter Bunny? Bernie Sanders?
Hey, geez... I got my own problems to fix in life, too. Like being unemployed. So I can't focus too much on solving the US Healthcare problems, and man, is it complex. But I could propose a solution by writing a book on how to solve it...
But anyway, it all boils down to TWO THINGS:
1) GREED
2) CORRUPTION
Every instance of why the system is messed up is probably essentially all that!
There is no care that Healthcare should be an industry that should benefit and care for society at an affordable cost. RATHER, THE CEO'S AND BIG GUNS IN CHARGE HAVE TO MAKE IT AN EXTREME MONEY MAKING PROFIT INDUSTRY.
Hey, geez... I got my own problems to fix in life, too. Like being unemployed. So I can't focus too much on solving the US Healthcare problems, and man, is it complex. But I could propose a solution by writing a book on how to solve it...
But anyway, it all boils down to TWO THINGS:
1) GREED
2) CORRUPTION
Every instance of why the system is messed up is probably essentially all that!
There is no care that Healthcare should be an industry that should benefit and care for society at an affordable cost. RATHER, THE CEO'S AND BIG GUNS IN CHARGE HAVE TO MAKE IT AN EXTREME MONEY MAKING PROFIT INDUSTRY.
Massively wrong. The data show otherwise. No one is getting rich: not doctors, not nurses, not hospital administrators, not insurance company executives -- no one is getting rich. But it now takes armies of bureaucrats and paper shufflers, none of whom get rich, to deal with insurance companies and medical provider administrators.
It is BLOAT. Not greed. Not corruption. Administrative bloat.
I have a service connected disability left over from Vietnam, yeah you are still paying for it, and so far the experience I have had with VA hospitals and facilities (Lake City Florida) has been very good.
On my card they have "Service Connected" and I wonder if I get better service for that than someone who is simply using the VA to get free lifetime medical care?
And as far as all those greedy hospitals closing down I wonder if it is because they are getting to much money?
Massively wrong. The data show otherwise. No one is getting rich: not doctors, not nurses, not hospital administrators, not insurance company executives -- no one is getting rich. But it now takes armies of bureaucrats and paper shufflers, none of whom get rich, to deal with insurance companies and medical provider administrators.
It is BLOAT. Not greed. Not corruption. Administrative bloat.
Ok, then prove why I am MASSIVELY WRONG.
For example, SR CITIZEN Healthcare. When my Dad had Alzheimer's and Prostrate Cancer, we could not afford to have him put into an $8500 / Nursing Home. Why should a nursing home cost that when they are understaffed and the personnel are underpaid? My neighbor's husband was put into a Nursing Home and they sucked them out of money alright. Yet when he bed wet himself the Nursing Center hardly cleaned him up and took care of him. So he developed lots of skin lesions and infections. And then when my neighbor tried to take him out of that Nursing Home, the Nursing Home even took my neighbor to court to keep him in...
Massively wrong? Blah Blah Blah from you saying "The Data says otherwise..." You're statistical facts are just "edjumicated facts" trying to deflect and DENY the TRUTH THAT I JUST STATED.
But then, it is this:
1) Greed
2) Corruption
3) Bloat
4) Poor Design of the Healthcare System
5) The Problems of Medical Malpractice Insurance and Messing Up
6) The Excessive Costs of Medical School
7) The Excessive Problems with Student Loans
We should expound further then, because there could be many more causes of this problem.
Yeah, Doctors and Hospitals do get greedy and corrupt. They will do unecessary operations or procedures to PAD your medical bill with lotsa charges. Or every little thing that they do will be excessively charged, as you have no choice when you get an EMERGENCY. Do you shop for a hospital? No, you get treated where the ambulance takes you and YOU SUCK UP TO THEIR BILL.
Massively wrong. The data show otherwise. No one is getting rich: not doctors, not nurses, not hospital administrators, not insurance company executives -- no one is getting rich. But it now takes armies of bureaucrats and paper shufflers, none of whom get rich, to deal with insurance companies and medical provider administrators.
It is BLOAT. Not greed. Not corruption. Administrative bloat.
Says who?
I do a lot of work at Health care facilities.
Over the last 10 years the average employee car has gone from a Honda Civic to a BMW or Mazaratti...
Im really afraid to bring my battered old work truck into these parking lots and scratching one of the cars.
For example, SR CITIZEN Healthcare. When my Dad had Alzheimer's and Prostrate Cancer, we could not afford to have him put into an $8500 / Nursing Home. Why should a nursing home cost that when they are understaffed and the personnel are underpaid? My neighbor's husband was put into a Nursing Home and they sucked them out of money alright. Yet when he bed wet himself the Nursing Center hardly cleaned him up and took care of him. So he developed lots of skin lesions and infections. And then when my neighbor tried to take him out of that Nursing Home, the Nursing Home even took my neighbor to court to keep him in...
Massively wrong? Blah Blah Blah from you saying "The Data says otherwise..." You're statistical facts are just "edjumicated facts" trying to deflect and DENY the TRUTH THAT I JUST STATED.
But then, it is this:
1) Greed
2) Corruption
3) Bloat
4) Poor Design of the Healthcare System
5) The Problems of Medical Malpractice Insurance and Messing Up
6) The Excessive Costs of Medical School
7) The Excessive Problems with Student Loans
We should expound further then, because there could be many more causes of this problem.
Yeah, Doctors and Hospitals do get greedy and corrupt. They will do unecessary operations or procedures to PAD your medical bill with lotsa charges. Or every little thing that they do will be excessively charged, as you have no choice when you get an EMERGENCY. Do you shop for a hospital? No, you get treated where the ambulance takes you and YOU SUCK UP TO THEIR BILL.
That works out to $283 per day for round the clock care....
It's a lot of money but remember what a person is paid and what they keep are two different things.
One comment is Out Patient Surgery Centers will quote prices the for the facility...
The thing many do not know or realize is even a simple surgery has at least 3 bills... Surgeon, Anesthesia and Facility...
God help you if the any are out of network... the big surprise is often with Anesthesia because substitutions can happen right before surgery...
This happened to my brother... it was all planned and in network... the morning of surgery his Anesthesiologist was not available so another one filled in... instead of the $1800 it was $4500 with no disclosure.
Brother refused to pay over the agreed amount and ultimately prevailed... he sent his certified letters to the Anesthesiologists home saying he did not appreciate getting collection calls and letters at his home so it was only fair to contact the Doc at his home...
This is not typical because most outpatient surgery centers contract with an anesthesia group. Not individual anesthesiologist. So if one anesthesiologist accepts your insurance so do the other anesthesiologists within that group. Can it happen? Sure, it is just not typical.
the ONLY way medical costs will ever decrease is if health insurance disappears and people have to pay cash for services.
Prices would PLUMMET overnight. Guaranteed. Otherwise all hospitals, clinics, urgent care, EDs, specialists, etc., would find the waiting rooms EMPTY.
Insurance or free care is not the issue. Cost is. And until the medical industrial complex is held accountable by CONSUMERS, costs will never ever EVER decrease.
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