Have you ever been escorted out while fired? (reputation, paycheck, find a job)
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I once had a job that went from great to sour. I had been filling in as the Interim Sales Dept Manager after the previous manager was caught embezzling. It seemed like I could do no wrong and the GM was always telling what a great job I was doing. Then they hired a new manager and she asked me to be the Assistant Dept Manager. She was young, blond , very attractive and things changed very quickly. Now, no matter what I did, I was always wrong, according to the GM, who was an old high school friend of the owner.
I decided to take all of my accumulated vacation time and look for a new job. My friend that ran the shipping room gave me a couple of boxes and over the next few days I quietly cleaned out my desk into the boxes, taped them shut and slid them under my desk.
When I came back from vacation I was sitting at my desk thinking of how I wanted to word my resignation when my boss called me into her office. As I entered, I saw the GM sitting there with her and thought, "They're going to let me go." which they did. The GM then told me the owner wanted to see me in his office and escorted me to the door.
The owner and I spoke briefly and it was friendly. He expressed his regret at seeing me go and gave me a month's severance pay. My impression was that the owner did not really want to let me go but he had hired his old friend to be the GM and put himself in the position of having to support the GM's decisions.
When I came out of the owners office, the GM stood there with his arms crossed saying he would escort me to my desk so I could clean it out, (The first time I saw the movie, 'Die Hard' the character of Ellis reminded me of the GM so much I laughed). We got to my desk, I pulled the chair out, reached down, got the two boxes, looked at the GM and said, "I'm ready... Bye!"
The look on his face was priceless and it was a moment I'll always remember. A few years later the sales dept manager, the GM and several others were no longer there and the owner asked me if I'd be interested in coming back to work for him which I did, staying there for almost twelve years.
My company routinely does downsizing and the employees who are let go are always given a box and watched as they clean out their desk and then escorted out. You never know how people are going to act when they get fired so it's better to be safe than sorry. I don't want any person deciding if someone should be escorted out or not, they all should be, or none should be.
You know your co-worker has checked out when they start bequeathing their Dilbert merch
If you're the type to hoard office supplies in your desk drawers, "cleaning out your desk" basically means you're set at home for writing supplies and paperclips for the next decade. Even better when they send a surly manager to do it on your behalf and they just grab a couple of banker's boxes and dump everything in/on your desk.
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My company routinely does downsizing and the employees who are let go are always given a box and watched as they clean out their desk and then escorted out. You never know how people are going to act when they get fired so it's better to be safe than sorry. I don't want any person deciding if someone should be escorted out or not, they all should be, or none should be.
The whole "better safe than sorry" attitude is reason #302 why I hate working in/with big corps.
Being escorted out is common b/c they do not want you going back to other employees and badmouthing or discussing it.
I doubt it's effective for that reason as the other employees can see you being escorted out plus certain employees maintain contact with one another (email, cellphone e.g.)
Every terminated employee should be escorted out by security. This is a process to protect the firm, the remaining employees, and the terminated user. While working in the office of a convenience store chain with 70 locations it was standard policy to terminate any employee who announced their resignation. That means if they gave a two-weeks notice we would show up a few days later and have them removed from the location. Again, this is simply a matter of protecting company assets and is perfectly legal.
Perfectly legal doesn't make this any less of a jerk move.
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Every terminated employee should be escorted out by security. This is a process to protect the firm, the remaining employees, and the terminated user.
I wouldn't make a blanket statement like that. Business owners (or managers and HR in a large firm) should act like decent human beings once in a while.
Handling the situation in a civil manner (as opposed to giving a long-term employee the bum's rush out the door) can make a big difference in how an ex-employee feels about the company and manager, and also in whether they decide to pursue a claim of wrongful discharge.
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That means if they gave a two-weeks notice we would show up a few days later and have them removed from the location. Again, this is simply a matter of protecting company assets and is perfectly legal.
Perfectly legal doesn't make it any less of a jerk move.
Did the company pay them for the two weeks, or only the actual days worked? (see my post upthread about unemployment insurance).
I didn't work in an office but in a newer printing plant ( about 600 employees)
I worked as a material handler from 7pm-7am
Sometimes a bindery dept worker would get fired.
The bindery shift supervisor would clock him out on the computer, hold the paperwork in his hand for all to see, and slowly walk ahead of the employee thru two other departments to get to the main door.
Just a few feet away from the bindery was a rear exit but they never used that when firing because no one else could witness the slow ......." humiliation parade "
I always thought if I got fired I would let the supervisor slowly walk to the front door but instead of being a little puppy following him, I would make a quick exit out the back and be gone.
The supervisor would not notice I was not part of his " humiliation parade" until he opened the front door and turned around to see I was long gone.
I've been in a few privately held businesses where "nobody work's out their notice period" was management's unwritten policy.
Joke was on them -- in most states, if you say "I hereby voluntarily resign my position, effective in two weeks" and the employer counters with "No, effective today, and we won't pay an extra two week's salary" then your leaving is no longer voluntary. Thus you can collect unemployment for those two weeks, driving up their UI bill (Most states charge an unemployment insurance tax on part of each employee’s income based on the company’s unemployment history; a company with more claims pays higher premiums).
Didn't have that happen to me ever, but I would go through the UI process as suggested to be a complete ass hat.
I wouldn't make a blanket statement like that. Business owners (or managers and HR in a large firm) should act like decent human beings once in a while.
Handling the situation in a civil manner (as opposed to giving a long-term employee the bum's rush out the door) can make a big difference in how an ex-employee feels about the company and manager, and also in whether they decide to pursue a claim of wrongful discharge.
It is quite evident that you are not in a position of authority (management) nor will you be trusted with such responsibility. If employees were "decent human beings" they wouldn't need to be escorted out of the office nor would there need to be any concern about their access remaining on company systems. Employees are your greatest asset, but they're also the most severe form of harm to a firm.
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Perfectly legal doesn't make it any less of a jerk move.
Did the company pay them for the two weeks, or only the actual days worked? (see my post upthread about unemployment insurance).
Pay was cut off the minute they announced their termination. Again - this is perfectly legal and in accordance with employment laws. Whether or not you find it fair is not irrelevant.
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Perfectly legal doesn't make this any less of a jerk move.
