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Old 09-04-2017, 01:10 AM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taL26h4eCYI

From a channel I subscribe to. Starts at 3:00 ends at 10:15. But to sum it up, this guy was working when a district manager came in asking to refund free stuff he got as a result of his permission, totalling some $470 dollars. He asks the DM how he's going to do it to which the DM responds: "I'm the district manager, I can do anything I want". So he figures even as shady as it is being there are cameras, receipts etc. he'll be fine. Only months later after inventory the store manager starts asking him about it and turns out, the DM had gone to the store and taken the receipts from the receipt box, and going to each store, taking stock from his store and returning it at another. But no one could catch him due to missing paperwork, however the DM messed up and had preordered a game using his name which ended up doing him in with the loss prevention people.

I think it's crazy. On one hand, even if you know something is real shady if someone such as a district manager tells you to do something one thinks just to do it otherwise the DM could make you lose your job, but on the other if you do and your superior is caught doing shady stuff you could end up being caught in the middle.

What are your thoughts? If a high up person tells you to do something you feel is wrong/real shady would you just do it as to not incur the wrath of said person, or stand your ground?
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Old 09-04-2017, 04:39 AM
 
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Document everything and HR.
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Old 09-04-2017, 04:43 AM
 
Location: SW Corner of CT
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Been there....stood my ground and refused to follow thier order....they did find someone else to do it anyhow....quit the job a few years after that incident, as it was getting more common place to rip off the customer.
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Old 09-04-2017, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Absolutely not!

They don't own my soul.
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Old 09-04-2017, 07:27 AM
 
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I would say no, although I will admit that I was pressured into some shady things when I was younger and inexperienced.

Refund scams of this type happen all the time in retail. Call loss prevention or HR. They would love to hear the details.
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Old 09-04-2017, 07:31 AM
 
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I would expose it and disassociate myself from it. My license requires me to be loyal to the publics interest; not my employer. I'll be damned if I go to jail for an employer. There's no way.
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Old 09-04-2017, 07:37 AM
 
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I was once ordered by an O5 to falsify a contractual document, so I refused. Told him if he wanted it done, he's have to do it and sign it himself. Funny, suddenly it wasn't that important if HIS name was going to be on it.
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Old 09-04-2017, 10:30 AM
 
Location: WMHT
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Lightbulb get them to put it in writing

For borderline requests, best bet is to play stupid and get them to put it in writing.

And make sure to keep a copy for yourself, in case the original "gets lost" like in the Gamestop story. Better to get fired for violating policy by keeping a copy of emails than to get fired for participating in a fraudulent scheme.
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Old 09-04-2017, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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I was told once to falsify a state required yearly electrical inspection. I just looked at the guy and started laughing at him. yeah let me falsify a test I put my name on so you can hide all the preventative maintenance and repairs you didn't do. Well it was good for a laugh.
I wrote up my test report and sent it in. It turned into a two year repair of fire damper and ducting system along with fire life safety and general electrical. Had to upgrade a few transformers and sub panels

I have emails from 10 years ago from work
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Old 09-04-2017, 11:31 AM
 
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Document everything and HR.
Yes. We also have a compliance hotline where I work. So it would be reported to that as well.
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