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Old 10-25-2017, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Mt. Lebanon
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I hate this type of stuff. You will lose friends for sure. And won't make money buy you will make other people rich.
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Old 10-25-2017, 07:09 PM
 
Location: U.S.A., Earth
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I nearly did [snip], a similar company. I realized the last day of training I couldn't do it and walked out. Not that I couldn't sell it, but rather that i didn't have the customer base to do much of anything. I am not sure if [snip] was a scam or not, but it isn't a great company unless you have married friends.

i would look into what your company looks for in their customer and know if you can do that. Also be passionate about the products. Love cosmetics and perfumes, check out [snip].
I heard that in some cases,[snip] ends up taking your customer base as their own anyways.
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That's the thing though.

You have to be effective sales people, and as that recent thread on shadiest professions showed, sales people like car salesmen aren't exactly respected.
I couldn't do it. Lie like that. That's not to say I'm "Mr. goody two shoes" either. If you snag someone who doesn't know better, you feel bad about potentially ruining their relationships, marriages, children's lives, and financial situations, and being evicted. The people who DO know better.. you need to be constantly deflecting their concerns...
"Is this Amway/Quixstar/an MLM type deal?"
Their response are something like "It's even better than a job!", or "You can earn so much money from this!". Other questions are replied, and those don't answer the question at all.


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Even if you have a great concept or product, you still have to pester people to make your business grow. Once you've alienated all your family and friends, what next? Coworkers? Walk up to strangers at Starbucks? Aww hell no, everyone will be onto you, no one approaches another random person in public without an ulterior motive.
[Mod cut.] HQ sent a memo to everyone in the organization, telling them they are NOT to pitch to people in Barnes & Noble. It wasn't due to any goodness of their hearts. It's because [snip] HQ got sent a letter from B&N, who got numerous complaints from their guests about getting harassed by them.

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Old 10-25-2017, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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<>"Is this [snip] an MLM type deal?"<>
Our trained response, was simply, "No."
It wasn't [Mod cut.] and it wasn't multilevel. Later we could explain details, but the big step in the front end was to educate, overcome objections, and get people interested. If people aren't interested, move on, don't be annoying.
That is pretty much what any business ends up being, isn't it? A lot of people come to you because they have been attracted to your offering, but most just happen to see you in their peripheral vision. They start out thinking you are something you are not. There are a lot of products presented on TV that are sold that way.

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Old 10-25-2017, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Most of the products that MLMs sell can be purchased anywhere, often for less money. Whether it's essential oils, leggings, cosmetics, cleaning products or vitamins.
That is exactly what I meant when I mentioned the ultimate failure of any sales system that has only one product or a narrow range of products. Even if you start out with the best looking panty-hose in the world, as soon as it begins to sell, someone will figure out how to mass produce it and beat you to death on price and delivery. Then your company is stuck because they have committed to the one product.
The talent is to have people out at the leading edge looking for the next big thing. Or even the next small bunch of things
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Old 10-25-2017, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Texas
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[snip] HQ sent a memo to everyone in the organization, telling them they are NOT to pitch to people in Barnes & Noble. It wasn't due to any goodness of their hearts. It's because [snip] HQ got sent a letter from B&N, who got numerous complaints from their guests about getting harassed by them.

They must have been haunting those stores like crazy.

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Old 10-25-2017, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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They must have been haunting those stores like crazy.
I once did a weekend of training on how to work a mall. It was the most fun when we went out at lunch and practiced on the [Mod cut.]. Those kiosks are real hell holes.

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Old 10-25-2017, 10:07 PM
 
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Here is the secret when looking at a network marketing company or product. If you had to does the compensation payout enough to keep a roof over your head and food on the table if you had to just from your personal sales of a product or service.

Here is the biggest stumbling block. It's sales and most people just don't want to sell which is why we see so many negative comments. No matter how many times people say network marketing doesn't work someone is making it work.
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Old 10-25-2017, 10:46 PM
 
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Here is the secret when looking at a network marketing company or product. If you had to does the compensation payout enough to keep a roof over your head and food on the table if you had to just from your personal sales of a product or service.

Here is the biggest stumbling block. It's sales and most people just don't want to sell which is why we see so many negative comments. No matter how many times people say network marketing doesn't work someone is making it work.
I completely agree! If you are going to go into sales, you have to ask yourself, can I make money selling it myself. If the answer is "NO". It's not a good business. Second, you have to ask yourself, do I believe in this product with all my heart and soul. I'm just passionate about this product.

And I also agree that most people failed because they have no business in sales in the first place because they aren't skill enough to be in sales.

Sales is a skill. A skill that must be learn. Do you think a random guy wakes up one day and says, "From this moment on, I'm going to be a doctor". Hell no! He's going to have to go to learn how to become a doctor. Do you think someone says, "I going to be a mechanic" suddenly knows how to fix cars? No! Why do people assume, suddenly they are going to be great at selling the moment they joined a sales organization without learning the craft?

I understand that becoming a saleperson is much easier than becoming a doctor, but sales is still a skill that must be learn.
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Old 10-26-2017, 04:39 PM
 
Location: U.S.A., Earth
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Our trained response, was simply, "No."
It wasn't [snip] and it wasn't multilevel. Later we could explain details, but the big step in the front end was to educate, overcome objections, and get people interested. If people aren't interested, move on, don't be annoying.
That is pretty much what any business ends up being, isn't it? A lot of people come to you because they have been attracted to your offering, but most just happen to see you in their peripheral vision. They start out thinking you are something you are not. There are a lot of products presented on TV that are sold that way.
I've learned the way they say "no" also tells me a lot. If I go to one of these meetings and it turns out to be [snip]r, or an MLM, then you just lied to me. With pretty much any business, if you lie, like on your resume or interview, many here on C-D will agree that's a sign of poor character.


When I buy something on TV, I get that product. They don't then tell me that I have to find other people to sell that product, and that those other people need to do the same. When you get into [Mod cut.], the product is recruiting downlines. Work the numbers, and it's truly unsustainable. Their own brochures even say the fail rate is over 99%.


At least the car salesman, as sleazy as his tactics can be, who sells a good amount of product will get commissions and bonuses to pay out very comparably and even surpass a typical salaried individual.

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Old 10-26-2017, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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As a timely suggestion, read the articles out there about the new Lu La Roe class-action lawsuit just filed last week.
I have not read all the posts, but some people are happy with this company, but many are not. Just go on YouTube and see.

When I was young and in a social neighborhood, I had many opportunities to attend parties like this...pampered chef, longenberger baskets, etc. even though there was no pressure to buy, I stopped going.
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