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Being offered $12 an hr IF you have a bachelors degree is just wrong.
You cannot even pay back your school loan much less think about funding a 401k retirement.
If they have school loans, they should plan to find a job that can allow them to pay it off, and make sure they have the skills needed for it before they graduate
what a company offers as pay, has no relation to how someone decides to pay for school
everyone seems to think they need a $50k job because they have student loans... too bad they don't come out of school with skills to fill a $50k job. they must have spent their loan money learning something else
That's too much common sense. It's easier to blame employers.
You act like employers share NONE of the blame. If you offer wages below market value and treat your employees like crap, don't stand back and point the finger at them when nobody will work for you. Like I said it works both ways, blame doesn't solely rest on the employee or employer, both must take responsibility.
But this is America, so holding employers accountable for their actions is seen as a joke. It's always the lazy employees fault, right?
If you’re not getting enough people applying for the positions you offer, the solution is not to hire illegal workers under the table that’ll work for less than minimum wage. That makes you no different than someone who embezzles money, or evades taxes, you are a criminal, and deserve to be treated as such!
I think it really comes down to the attitude of “nobody owes you anything, you should take what they offer and be thankful you got that!” As long as whoever you’re working for is following the laws, I agree, (hiring legal employees at legal wages) and if they can’t get enough people to fill those positions, it’s time for YOU as a business to change to attract more prospective employees. Whether that be through higher wages, more benefits, etc, but NOT by hiring an illegal workforce or paying them under the table . I understand that companies are treated as if they are “above the law” and are not held to the same standards as normal people.
I don’t understand why people are so quick to blame the worker instead of the company. Company wants to pay you peanuts and work you to death, nobody's applying for the jobs we offer because the American people are too lazy!!!
Open a business and see how long you last with your money at stake.
I was a very generous liberal, then I opened a business and got dope slapped by reality.
I am a manager of a warehouse, actually 2, for a very big plastics manufacturer. I hire, and fire employees not regularly, but I have to do it. Im not going to start these guys out at 15 bucks an hour, why should I? They havent shown me, yet, that they can do the job required, or have enough common sense to do it. I start each of them out at 10 bucks an hour, I dont care if they have been doing warehouse work for the last 20 years. Show me you can do the job, Ill pay you more. Its that simple! Im not going to hire some 20 something year old, with no experience and/or training who thinks he deserves more and comes in with a chip on his shoulder because he thought he was treated unfairly in his last job. And yes, Ill hire a person from another country, if he has the right paperwork and is here legally! I have 3 right now that will out work most of my other guys put together.
If you’re not getting enough people applying for the positions you offer, the solution is not to hire illegal workers under the table that’ll work for less than minimum wage. That makes you no different than someone who embezzles money, or evades taxes, you are a criminal, and deserve to be treated as such!
I think it really comes down to the attitude of “nobody owes you anything, you should take what they offer and be thankful you got that!” As long as whoever you’re working for is following the laws, I agree, (hiring legal employees at legal wages) and if they can’t get enough people to fill those positions, it’s time for YOU as a business to change to attract more prospective employees. Whether that be through higher wages, more benefits, etc, but NOT by hiring an illegal workforce or paying them under the table . I understand that companies are treated as if they are “above the law” and are not held to the same standards as normal people.
I don’t understand why people are so quick to blame the worker instead of the company. Company wants to pay you peanuts and work you to death, nobody's applying for the jobs we offer because the American people are too lazy!!!
Companies just use that as an excuse to stuff the payroll with cheaper immigrants.
Didnt we have a lengthy discussion about this a few months ago? Not enough employees are applying due to the low unemployment rate.
If one pays a little above average wages for the position, offers just average benefits, treats the employees well, and offers them an opportunity to grow within the company you will have a multitude to choose from. Those employees who are working for below average wage, zero benefits, and or get treated poorly will flock to you!
You don't know? It isn't intuitive to you (and lots of other people I guess)?
The government.
They make the rules.
Corporations are their creation.
Illegals are their creation.
Corruption is their creation (and their failure).
Beyond that.... You can have either individual liberty or authoritarian rule. But not both. In my opinion, a populace that is too childish or lazy to police their government and hold it accountable.... deserves whatever it winds up getting. Because, having been a parent, I understand that some can handle responsibility and some can't. Maybe 80 years of tyrannical rule will be precisely what suits Americans if they can't rule themselves. In a Democracy (which we weren't supposed to be), everybody is responsible for the failures and the success.
Didnt we have a lengthy discussion about this a few months ago? Not enough employees are applying due to the low unemployment rate.
Yeah, but hey we have to have something to complain about right? After all, I've rarely seen a company that was your best friend...
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