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During my uncle's stay at a rehab,I marveled at:
(1): the barcodes utilized for patient documentation. From medicine to patient status. Nothing was hand written or typed.
The nurse (RN) grabbed her scanner and viola! Within seconds all was documented.
(2) patients are objects,number data,and profit material.
(3) only time a nurse wrote anything was when she had to give us the WiFi password to the complex.
I commend today's nurses for being tech savvy. For being geared to the modern tools available. Gosh knows with the hippa rulings every note is vital and secured. Long gone is the Florence nightingale style of nursing. So while I tend to favor the compassionate and regarding nurse,I find it almost non existent in today's numbers game.
I often think the nurses are stuck in the middle of translating doctors orders to fielding patient quirks. They are the link. Most that I have come in contact with carry an air of such indifference to the patient (jaded perhaps?) That paying them $18-40 per hour deserves some level of care. But I'm not their employer....just a patient thinking I am a living being and not a barcode.
Blame the hospital/system. My son has been a Registered Nurse since 2005. He has worked in four different hospitals. They are kept short-staffed and the system reduces them to being robots. The imposition of “patient-satisfaction surveys” that affect reimbursement has reduced them to being waiters and waitresses. They wade over numerous family and the families’ effects to try to get to the patient to render care. They have great responsibility but no control over their jobs. The documentation and hoops he has to go through to get even the simplest things done are strangling.
It is not the nursing of even thirteen years ago and my son desperately wants out but, at almost forty, feels trapped. Google rate of nurses leaving profession.
"Schools are packed with long waiting lists".....that is due to a shortage of qualified Nursing instructors, not an excess of Nursing students. Qualified/expert Nursing instructors come from a small pool of Registered Nurses who for one reason or another have decided to leave patient care and go into the classroom....ya can't open a Nursing School without teachers, so short supply and higher demand for the few existing seats dictate the shortage.
Most hospitals are only willing to hire nurses with min 2 years critical care experience only. No 2 years, no job.
Tons of new grads on the side lines while these hospitals talk about how they can't find anyone to hire.
Instead of complaining, these hospitals need to hire entry level grads and train them, instead of all the hospitals fighting over something that clearly is no longer there.
Basically the hospitals are all fighting over the same dwindling population of people instead of training and building up the labor pool to their benefit.
Lots of industries are doing this for some reason. Instead of fighting over people, grow the available population and you will have more than enough people to hire and lower wages.
There are a lot of nursing jobs in the South, such as Alabama or Atlanta, Ga . The pay is about the same as New York City, especially in Atlanta, GA area. Some new graduates have to be flexible in order to find work. The job market is not like the pre-recession era dated back to 2008. Many hospitals in New York City got closed and many jobs were lost forever over there.
Nursing jobs are out there, but you have to be flexible in order to get it. Anyone willing to relocate with a license already can send me a private message, I will be able to guide you to find that dream job(s).
"Schools are packed with long waiting lists".....that is due to a shortage of qualified Nursing instructors, not an excess of Nursing students. Qualified/expert Nursing instructors come from a small pool of Registered Nurses who for one reason or another have decided to leave patient care and go into the classroom....ya can't open a Nursing School without teachers, so short supply and higher demand for the few existing seats dictate the shortage.
Regards
Gemstone1
Who is going to become a Nursing Professor when a Nursing faculty has the same salary as an License Practical Nurse?
I know people laughed at me for choosing the nursing profession (as a male). But I never had to worry about finding employment. Sure it's stressful, manually intensive, often thankless work - but you have to find your niche in the profession - there are so many different opportunities if basic Med-Surg nursing doesn't suit your needs.
I have never been laughed at; and I have been a nurse since 1999. I started as an LPN and I became an R.N. in 2004. What town/state you are from? I am originally from New York City.
But you're still probably around death and sickness regardless and always thinking about your own mortality in the process (or I would be) . So no thanks.. Can't think of a more depressing life
Its more to the job than being around death and sickness. I could personally never work an office job. To me that would be extremely depressing , not to mention boring. lol
"I wouldn't be a nurse for Trump's Salary"...that's what makes the world go round....different strokes for different folks.
Wife loves her career of caring for others, we've been able to travel the country via Travel Nursing, great salary, often times bonuses for renewing a contract, always a housing stipend.
Well, when I first started out it was $1.25 an hour... so obviously I didn't go into such a career for monetary GAIN!! That was in 1970... BUT when bargaining cause increased wages.. We started to increased that level. BUT $$ was NOT the initiator of WHY we pursued such a career.. IT was because WE FELT the CALLING!! YES> in FACT we ( nurses with true callings got so much payback/comfort by making a difference) Loved what we did! I have zero understanding WHY Nurses get Bashed or denigrated because of $$ today needed to actually survive! Benefits or other items that Nurses need seem to be forgotten!!
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In my area, RN's fresh out of school start at $18/hr, and there are plenty of them.
I, as above mentioned started (1970) $1.25/hour.. so after just less than a century we've gained what?? $16.25an hour? Yet no one wants to address the stress nor the responsibility factor that young/older nurses actually FEEL!!???? I retired in 2016 @ $39.00/Hours... and that was after 46 years of front line experience!!
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My ex is an RN, and she says the profession has changed so much that she is glad she only depends on it for supplemental income. She complains that the paperwork you have to do keeps you from doing the work you really signed on for.
It is still a good profession, but not like it was 20-30 years ago, IMO.
Paperwork is actually the least of her worries!! IF that isn't done she has ZERO protection from aberrant Dr.'s or Hospital's Administrations who will THROW you UNDER BUS!! .. today DATA driven check lists is TODAY!! After I retired I had to visit ER some 3 + years ago..and couldn't understand that RN's had almost zero one on one interactions.. TOO busy punching in DATA.. ZERO time to actually interact and explain things!! I'm GLADI retired when I did!!
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Originally Posted by Gusano
Blame the hospital/system. My son has been a Registered Nurse since 2005. He has worked in four different hospitals. They are kept short-staffed and the system reduces them to being robots. The imposition of “patient-satisfaction surveys” that affect reimbursement has reduced them to being waiters and waitresses. They wade over numerous family and the families’ effects to try to get to the patient to render care. They have great responsibility but no control over their jobs. The documentation and hoops he has to go through to get even the simplest things done are strangling.
It is not the nursing of even thirteen years ago and my son desperately wants out but, at almost forty, feels trapped. Google rate of nurses leaving profession.
It appears your son felt the calling.. BUT I can understand why he feels this way! It didn't take long back in the day ( since I mentored so many gems in the making Nurses (male and female) that many were there for the RIGHT reasons!!
I'm not so sure I would survive given what's happening today.. BUT will also say.. getting Politics OUT of HC will only benefits patients!! Social Media coming from south of 49th Parallel has done nothing but BASH Canadian HC System.. However..NO one has to pay multy thousands costs with thousand's of deductible for basic care/referrals/surgery etc etc.. NO Citizen goes Bankrupt nor loses whatever they earned in their life because of catastrophic circumstance!! In the end.. The Caregivers don't give a cr@p what station isle you are.. WE always tried to assist, HELP, and MAKE a difference .. by taking a few moments to TALK, squeeze a hand, smile etc etc!! Caregiving is a Special Calling and please @Gusano;51276400 encourage your son to follow His calling!!
Sounds like pharmacy lol. Overburdened and oversaturation. Doctors and patients expect a lot from you, but you can only work within your limits. There will always be some irate doctor who wants to throw your under the bus. I have a good friend who is a nurse. the nurse at her hospital went on strike years ago due to unsafe conditions( working 12-hours back to back, etc).
Also, I will repeat what others have said. Relocation may just be the key to gaining employment. NYC is awesome, but you have far too competition and not enough jobs.Anyone from NYC is aware of this. Remember all those broke hospitals Montifiore Health System bought up? I could name many other major cities like this.
Embrace the fact that you will have to move. I won't say stay away from nursing, but go into with eyes wide open. Healthcare is no longer to happiness and boat loads of money anymore.
Most hospitals are only willing to hire nurses with min 2 years critical care experience only. No 2 years, no job.
Tons of new grads on the side lines while these hospitals talk about how they can't find anyone to hire.
Instead of complaining, these hospitals need to hire entry level grads and train them, instead of all the hospitals fighting over something that clearly is no longer there.
Basically the hospitals are all fighting over the same dwindling population of people instead of training and building up the labor pool to their benefit.
Lots of industries are doing this for some reason. Instead of fighting over people, grow the available population and you will have more than enough people to hire and lower wages.
I've worked in hospitals for over six years and that isn't true. You need to find the time when their really struggling and short and sometimes that takes several months of repeatedly applying for the same position. I got my hospital job after only working for a year in assisted living. I had no experience in the hospital. They had lost several employees and were understaffed. Timing is everything.
New nurses are a risk to hospitals and they prefer hiring experienced ones for sure but sometimes they don't have that option. I think the younger grads complain and say they are looking for hospital jobs but they fail to look and act professional and take the correct steps in getting hired. Sometimes if you really want a job you have to dress really nice, take a hard copy of your resume (after you applied online) and walk directly into HR. I know....its scary but it works. I have landed several jobs making my face seen. It shows that you really want the job.
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There are a lot of nursing jobs in the South
