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Old 07-27-2018, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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The OP had started similarly whiny threads in the past about his lack of prospects, but never responded in length to posts asking for specifics so that constructive advice can be given. Those who take this post seriously shouldn't bother.

I do know someone who found his first real job in his forties. He wasn't sure what he wanted to do and ended up getting two masters degrees and an MBA. He's also one of the most pretentious and obnoxious persons I know, and I think that fully explains his employment woes.
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Old 07-27-2018, 01:15 PM
 
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Some simply do not make good employees... but they can do well on their own.

Interesting guy I met with a grading and paving company... I asked why grading and paving?

He said he grew up on a farm and after the service got a job for a paving company... he and the owner didn't see eye to eye and he was fired...

Got a job at a competitor and was told his job was to operate the grader as told... and if he thought he knew better... maybe he should open his own company... and that is what he did 40 years ago...

Almost put the first guy out of business to prove his point... the second guy actually became friends... and to this day he says the second was the reason he started his business.

There were some large freeway contracts... too big for one so they did a joint bid and won the contract back in the 80's...

Again... some simply do not have the aptitude to work for others...

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Old 07-27-2018, 02:11 PM
 
Location: West Coast U.S.A.
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OP, if you're still there... do you think you might be lacking in the people skills area or you might be autistic? Either one is a serious roadblock to employment. If you think that's a possibility you might want to check out some forums dedicated to social awkwardness or autism.
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Old 07-27-2018, 03:31 PM
 
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The OP claims to have a "M.S. in engineering, MBA, B.S. in computer science". If you believe it, or if you believe what he posted, then I have a marina in the Sahara I want to sell you.

Funny how just one absurd claim can generate 5 pages of debate. I think it's time to fold up and let this thread meet its well-deserved demise.
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Old 07-27-2018, 04:43 PM
 
Location: West Coast U.S.A.
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The OP claims to have a "M.S. in engineering, MBA, B.S. in computer science". If you believe it, or if you believe what he posted, then I have a marina in the Sahara I want to sell you.

Funny how just one absurd claim can generate 5 pages of debate. I think it's time to fold up and let this thread meet its well-deserved demise.
Maybe the OP has a M.S in B.S.
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Old 07-27-2018, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Boston
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I don't know why people assume that just because the guy has a Comp Sci degree he is forever employable. You can be (previously) highly educated and intelligent and become obsolete. If he is too lazy to stay on top of current technology, employees will tell him to his face that we are looking for someone who knows XYZ and you don't know jack about it, goodbye.
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Old 07-29-2018, 11:11 PM
 
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While I am smart and highly educated, employers continually tell me that I have no skills to offer to employers. Thus, I am unable to get a job despite great effort. I am feeling unemployable.

I know there are many quality jobs that I can do, but getting rejected continuously is very demoralizing, and I worried about becoming homeless due to lack of income.

What can I do?

I have been through something very similar. No one is ever going to believe you, yet at the same time, none of these people will ever truly help you either. Sure they will have advice, (everyone has advice, but that is not what you really need, you need leads, an "in" etc... besides, you have probably heard it all before already) they will tell you how there is no way it is true, you should be able to get hired, yet not in any way be able to help you get hired or find a job.

It is funny how that works.

The problem is when people look at your education, they expect you to be working, or at a certain place in your career given time frames of graduation etc... and when you aren't, no hire for you. The people who hire come up with all kinds of stories, based on nothing but unfounded fear fueled by herd mentality, about how given this you must be some undesirable type of person, and even if you are applying to jobs that you qualify for, no hire.

Employers all talk about how they can't find anyone, but place someone who is qualified to do the job, yet not perfect on paper (even though it has nothing to do with wether or not that person can do the job), and these same employers take all but 3 seconds to cast you aside.

Especially since you have an engineering/CS degree. People act weird when it comes to people having engineering or CS degrees. They think it is some kind of holy grail to employment, and it isn't.

How long have you been looking?

If it is still pretty recent, keep looking.

If it is long term, like a couple years, switch gears and do something completely different in your life.

Keep trying to land the impossible, no matter how qualified you are, and you are going to lose your mind and mental health.

They say things are different today, employers are more open to people who aren't "qualified" (I think the WSJ just published an article about this), but I haven't found that to be true. I come out of the woodwork a couple times a year and test the waters again and nothing has really changed.
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Old 07-30-2018, 04:37 AM
 
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Maybe the OP has a M.S in B.S.
Agreed. If his feedback here is representative of his feedback at work, I think I know the answer to his question.
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Old 07-30-2018, 06:05 AM
 
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The OP hasn't responded yet, have they?
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