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There you are again in defense mode. How about they LEAD BY EXAMPLE. Some people are sick of the double standards between management and employees.
So telling the truth and providing info for people who may not understand what executives/department heads actually do is defensive now?
What you repeatedly fail to understand us that people in the senior managerial ranks have a fundamentally different job from you. Expecting them to do your job means that they will be unable to do their jobs.
For instance, I have a meeting next week with the mayor of the city. That isn’t anything I can delegate to my reports, and it will mean that I won’t be in at my normal time. What is your advice? Should I refuse to meet with the mayor?
I'm often 10-15 minutes late. Not only do I have one of the longer commutes (over an hour), but I am generally answering emails for an hour before I leave for work, rarely take a lunch break, and work nights and weekends because the nature of my job is 24/7 (managing social media). If there's a crisis at 3AM, guess who gets the phone call?
My boss agrees that since I'm contracted to work 35 hours but even in the best of circumstances have to work at least 45-50 (and upwards of 80 if we're in some kind of PR crisis) then no one misses those first 15 minutes before I walk in the door.
But I wouldn't do it without clearing it with my management first.
There are jobs in which the employees may need flexibility to do their job. The salesman who meets his customer for breakfast on the way to work, theoretically started work an hour early, even though he isn’t there.
Same as if he had a dinner meeting the night before, so really has banked 2 hours the next day.
In fairness many people no longer have admins who can see the calendar and track down the boss.
Very true. Which is why my direct reports also have my cell number, and we review schedules and tasks on a regular basis so that everybody is aware of what projects are being worked on.
There are many ways to communicate, I tend to use multiple methods so that everybody is aware of what is going on. My point is that being at my desk at 8:00am sharp probably happens 75% of the time, but the other 25% doesn't mean that I am late, it simply means that I am doing something else work related not tied to a physical location.
My supervisor said this during a recent staff meeting where time and attendance was discussed. Do you agree or disagree with that? Late meaning late to start work. Over 10 minutes past scheduled start time.
At a job I held for several years, it was routine for me to put in 30 to 60 minutes, off the clock, at the end of the day, to run out to various clients and deal with last-minute issues. But I dared not be even one minute late, punching the time-clock in the morning. A supervisor even said, that the clock needed to always be punched at least two minutes early, to show an eagerness to serve the company.
This company, which produced the No. 1 media in town, paid starvation wages, gave no benefits or bonuses and if you took vacation time, no one did your work and you had to spend a week after hours, catching up with it. They considered that their employees should be glad to do these things, for the prestige of working for them.
My supervisor said this during a recent staff meeting where time and attendance was discussed. Do you agree or disagree with that? Late meaning late to start work. Over 10 minutes past scheduled start time.
It doesn't mean they are late then. They are allowed to show up a little later than others due to their service. That's fine
A lot of jobs start time doesn't really matter. Last salaried position I had work started at 8:00, which was on paper when we were supposed to be there. I routinely showed up at 10 or 11. A lot of us flexed and worked remotely. Management didn't care. They cared about results. Unless you had a meeting to attend, you could show up whenever, leave whenever. It was pretty high stress but punching in on time wasn't a factor in that.
Other jobs it does matter. In my position now it doesn't work at all. I'm really just a cog, but no cog means nothing gets done and everyone sits around impatiently waiting. The cogs all need to be in place for anything to get done so punctuality matters.
I think its comical that people are referring to 10 minutes as "late". In my book being late is well over an hour, 10 minutes is noise even if you have to open. Unless its some kind of life or death situation where you have to be there (like a sniper I suppose) then its really just power tripping.
Also if im in sales doing that well I will want more money AND the ability to be late. I would not last long at such rigid jobs because I know that at the heart of the issue is a power trip because of the negative leverage situation that employees are in right now and not because of some critical life or death situation like an ambulance driver.
At a job I held for several years, it was routine for me to put in 30 to 60 minutes, off the clock, at the end of the day, to run out to various clients and deal with last-minute issues. But I dared not be even one minute late, punching the time-clock in the morning. A supervisor even said, that the clock needed to always be punched at least two minutes early, to show an eagerness to serve the company.
This company, which produced the No. 1 media in town, paid starvation wages, gave no benefits or bonuses and if you took vacation time, no one did your work and you had to spend a week after hours, catching up with it. They considered that their employees should be glad to do these things, for the prestige of working for them.
How did they get people to care or even show up at all. I would think the turn around, no call no shows would be through the roof? Why would you care about the job, better to die on your feet than live on your knees. I would plot a way to ruin the boss life in a legal manner.
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