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Not surprising at all. If there was one major complaint I would understand. However, to make a list and say "here is everything you and the company are doing wrong, this is how I think, you can do it better." Is not a smart business decision.
Well you can hope they take your concerns under advisement and at least investigate what the problems are and attempt to rectify the situation. Doing nothing to improve the situation only leads to loss of business among another problems and eventually everyone losing their job
I've taken company issues, often with another person as backup, to the boss, yes. But your friends issues were "all about him". That's tougher to answer. All it would take is one issue for his boss to (quietly) disagree with, and all the other legitimate issues would be ignored, and he's laid off.
Surprisingly, I've often run I into legitimate "I actually didn't see it" responses from busy bosses whose skills were not about people, in particular. We were in const. and there are LOADS of drug and alcohol issues, which Head Office just doesn't see, and there are too many that DON'T WANT to see.
This is more about perception, how you come across, and attitude than the suggestions themself.
I often make suggestions on how to improve things that can be improved for both me and the company. If it comes across as complaining, you're doing something wrong. Also, make sure you understand what your boss and their boss find important, and frame your suggestions in a way that helps them.
Personally, I'm the complain but never take it to the boss/manager, just look-for-another-job type. A couple of places I worked 95 percent of the employees complained vociferously amongst themselves. Almost all the workforce was disgruntled -- and rightfully so. But we knew management didn't care about us, so what was the point of even taking them any concerns. All you'd get would be lip service.
While I'd just leave, there are people who would like to improve things where they are.
Someone has got to try to make the world a better place, right?
A friend of mine in the office had a number of valid concerns about how he was being treated in his job and the company as a whole. He spent hours working on a formal report about his concerns and came up with logical suggestions to the problems he faced. He believed that his suggestions were logical, informed, practical and well thought out. He did not be seen as just bitching but instead someone with a solution to the issues everyone faced.
He sat down with his boss and went through his concerns and suggested improvements. His boss took notes but did not say much. At the end of the meeting, the boss said he would think about it.
A couple weeks later my friend was laid off. When asked why the boss said he did not want to have anyone working for him that was unhappy so it was best to strike it up to experience and leave. He was escorted out of the offices a few minutes later.
Yes, there may be more to this story than what I heard from my friend, but it seems similar to a story I have heard repeated many times. The story: In Corporate America: if you are seen as a complainer, you're out!
Would you ever complain to your boss about their management decisions or style, or about bad company decisions? Or would you just see the issues as a reason keep your head down and quietly send your resume out and move on as soon as you are offered a new job?
That kind of boss will not prosper as much as they can. If they are not willing to listen to employees, that's already a red flag. To lay someone off because they are offering solutions to problems they are facing at work, that shows they are not willing to listen. If it were business ideas, the boss would probably equally lay someone off who does not support their goals/way of growing the business through and through. One must always be willing to listen to ideas because that's how businesses adapt. If one person is determining everything,...not good in the long run.
I don't like that this happened to your friend but your friend is better off working somewhere else. They should be grateful...can't imagine working for this kind of boss for too long. Maybe they can file unemployment.
A friend of mine in the office had a number of valid concerns about how he was being treated in his job and the company as a whole. He spent hours working on a formal report about his concerns and came up with logical suggestions to the problems he faced. He believed that his suggestions were logical, informed, practical and well thought out. He did not be seen as just bitching but instead someone with a solution to the issues everyone faced.
He sat down with his boss and went through his concerns and suggested improvements. His boss took notes but did not say much. At the end of the meeting, the boss said he would think about it.
A couple weeks later my friend was laid off. When asked why the boss said he did not want to have anyone working for him that was unhappy so it was best to strike it up to experience and leave. He was escorted out of the offices a few minutes later.
Yes, there may be more to this story than what I heard from my friend, but it seems similar to a story I have heard repeated many times. The story: In Corporate America: if you are seen as a complainer, you're out!
Would you ever complain to your boss about their management decisions or style, or about bad company decisions? Or would you just see the issues as a reason keep your head down and quietly send your resume out and move on as soon as you are offered a new job?
I've complained before and been punished for it; I have no regrets whatsoever! And trust, I made sure that the employer was reported for their actions.
As a general rule in business, if you are going to take a list of formal complaints that point out their faults to your management team,you need to be prepared to find another job. Think about it this way, in spite of what some people say(who have obviously never been in an upper managerial role), the people who are in key management positions did not get there because they are stupid or cannot make an intelligent decision. For you to come to them with your list which details in your mind how sorry they are at actually running their business is very insulting. It also clearly shows management that you are totally clueless as to how business operates. Meaning...you have ZERO credibility.
Now,if you are content to never want to get ahead, be like the other poster who loves to complain about everything management does. There’s always room for a few more at the bottom.
Seeing what I've seen, I have to respectfully disagree. You must always be willing to be open-minded about solutions to possible problems. Not everyone gets promoted based off their intelligence/work ethic. LOL.
The person should be glad they got let go. I've seen companies that don't deserve hard working/intelligent workers. Perhaps the employee will find a company that values them/find another field where they can be their own boss/build their own company.
You complain best by finding a new job, smiling all the time while looking, then blindsiding your boss with an unexpected notice.
Dysfunctional workplaces are not that way by accident. They choose to be. S if you have a lengthy lists of issues, do not waste a millisecond thinking management does not know, nor think it is not intentional on their part.
A friend of mine in the office had a number of valid concerns about how he was being treated in his job and the company as a whole. He spent hours working on a formal report about his concerns and came up with logical suggestions to the problems he faced. He believed that his suggestions were logical, informed, practical and well thought out. He did not be seen as just bitching but instead someone with a solution to the issues everyone faced.
Did he get a few second opinions about how his letter came across? I'll bet anything that it looked exactly like "bitching" to his boss. Sure, "he believed"... but he only convinced himself. I only had to get halfway through the second sentence before I knew how this story played out
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