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Old 01-12-2019, 01:30 PM
 
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Originally Posted by MrRational View Post
In addition to the 1930 hours (2060-130)
that can/should be expected of any full time job ...
how many more hours do you work in the course of a year?

Just to quantify the quantifiable...

I'm curious as to how you come up with that hours count. 40 (hours a week) x 52 (weeks a year) = 2080 hours. Vacation take 80 hours (2 weeks) off that which puts it at 2000 hours.

 
Old 01-12-2019, 01:31 PM
 
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Brush up the rez, start looking
 
Old 01-12-2019, 01:31 PM
 
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"Is this a reasonable course of action?"
yes. start now.
 
Old 01-12-2019, 01:42 PM
 
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Find another job if you can. This one will only change for the worst
 
Old 01-12-2019, 03:02 PM
 
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Well.. You probably won't have to worry about getting laid off at least . However, I wouldn't expect a promotion (the only way to get a substantial pay increase these days unfortunately) . They will keep you in that role forever and go to you whenever a problem arises while they will be the ones who just breeze through year after year. Been there done that. Too many times to count. Ive seen lots of valuable employees who went above and beyond the call of duty just get fed up and quit (if they weren't laid off prior) because despite going above and beyond, the received the same annual raises as the slackers. Its not fair and not right and in the long run just destroys the company because they cant' retain any quality staff. So all thats left are the bottom of the barrel employees who are lazy or wont learn anything new.
Which is why I will tell my manager I'm not doing this work anymore if I don't receive good news this month. I've documented everything I've worked on and done numerous training sessions for team members on the subject. It would be up to her to figure out the next in line for that with no more help from me whatsoever.
 
Old 01-12-2019, 03:38 PM
 
Location: The Triad
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40 (hours a week) x 52 (weeks a year) = 2080 hours. (thanks for the correction here)
Vacation and other days off... ~130hrs in all ... puts base at 1950 hours.

I'm worth more than just 80hrs off and I suspect you are too...
but doing the rest is tougher than ever to negotiate.
 
Old 01-12-2019, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Saint John, IN
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The city I live in currently "squeezes" employees through low wages and often no benefits, due to the high number of people and low number of jobs. That's worse to me than having to work harder and wear more hats.
We live on the border of two states. One a high COL state (Illinois) and the other a low COL state (Indiana). Indiana pays employees significantly less and therefore, most who live in the immediate area work in Illinois to be paid better.

When we moved from IL to IN, my current employer (an insurance agency) wanted to pay me $7 less an hour and half of what I was making in commission for the same job I had before we moved. Now, I'm not stupid and have been an agent a long time. I know that it doesn't matter what state you do business in, companies we represent pay the same commissions to all agents, so he's not making any less by having his agency in Indiana. That doesn't vary. Once I told him that and he realized he couldn't get me (an experienced agent) for next to nothing, he upped the pay. Still not being paid what I was, but close enough.
 
Old 01-12-2019, 05:16 PM
 
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Which is why I will tell my manager I'm not doing this work anymore if I don't receive good news this month. I've documented everything I've worked on and done numerous training sessions for team members on the subject. It would be up to her to figure out the next in line for that with no more help from me whatsoever.


Yep. Put them on the hot seat or just keep busting your rear while they take advantage and you make them look good. Thats all you can do. Know your worth and value to the company. Theres nothing wrong with working hard for your company and becoming invaluable. But as stated, business is a two-way street. You scratch their back, they need to scratch yours as well. If you're gonna bust your tail, you need to be compensated for it and get some promotions out of the deal.

If you continue breaking your back for them and not demand anything, don't expect the situation to ever change
 
Old 01-12-2019, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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I work at a big company that is extremely budget-conscious and has a reputation for "squeezing" their employees by asking them to take on multiple roles (I know, not uncommon). I currently have 3 responsibilities that at many companies would require three employees. I have also been at the company going on 4 years and never been promoted or received a raise beyond the 3% cost of living raise. I am extremely hard-working, diligent, and well-respected by my team members.

Earlier this year I inherited a critical role on the team that is not typically tied to my job title and has added 30-40% to my workload and stress level. Most companies have budget and specialists that do this job and get paid way more than me. I've been able to pick up the skill set and do a decent job but still have never gotten a real raise at the company. We have performance reviews coming up that normally can include promotions and raises. If nothing good happens, I feel like telling my manager that I'm done doing this job and she needs to find somebody else (and they have nobody else with this knowledge in the company, so I have some leverage). Of course this would coincide with me kicking off a serious job hunt.... hate to be paranoid and jump to conclusions but things are not always fair here; it is very political and I have not played that game.

Is this a reasonable course of action? I'm extremely frustrated by the lack of progress in my time there. My manager plays the favorites game and her favorites are literally the least productive people in the department.

If your company has a pension, get your five years in. Then look for a better job. You need to be sure of who you send your resume to. You don't want it to circle back into your bosses hands, If that happens, they will choose a termination date for you.
 
Old 01-12-2019, 10:16 PM
 
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Lol pension.. my company does not even guarantee severance pay if you get laid off.
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