Help! Any HR People or Hiring Managers Out There? (interviews, unemployed, college degree)
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Point of the post and that one of PP is if you are going to complain about someone's spelling errors, your own post should be spotless as well. Ever heard of people in glass houses not throwing stones?
Point of the post and that one of PP is if you are going to complain about someone's spelling errors, your own post should be spotless as well. Ever heard of people in glass houses not throwing stones?
Well, I didn't get the correlation between a guy who works in a warehouse not spelling things correctly on an application and also being a lousy co-worker. What has spelling got to do w/ working in a warehouse? Why would someone in HR equate poor spelling skills w/ whether or not a guy can stack stuff?
Lost me on that one.
Some people are not very literate - may not read/write well, but that doesn't mean he/she would not be capable of doing warehouse work.
Some people are dyslexic, as well . . . they just get letters mixed up.
Gold dust, more on addressing being over-qualified:
I'm now thinking that a major reason people are reluctant to hire an overqualified person, in addition to the things I mentioned above, is that they often have had one bad experience with this type of hire. Then this "horror story" experience colors their decisions about any subsequent overly qualified people.
I posted a question about this on another forum I visit, and so far everyone seems to be coming back with their specific examples of hiring someone who was a bad fit, and happened to be over-qualified. These bad experiences clearly affect hiring managers.
So perhaps knowing this, you can try to "innoculate" for it in the job interviews. Present yourself as humble, not arrogant about your experience. You may have X experience, but you know you always have more to learn. Have examples of "learning something new each day" or examples of when you learned something valuable from a newcomer to your field. Take care to be someone who is very open to learning, and taking direction from others.
Also point out something different about the company and job you are applying for. Something that makes you appreciate what is offered. Have a good reason why taking this job would not be "settling" until something better comes along. Maybe a shift in your personal priorities: like it used to be all about money or advancement, but now with your experience and maturity, you have other values...etc.
Ok, the correlation with this guy was: Because of his bad hand writing skills, it was pretty hard sometimes to read a number (qty.) he wrote down. When he done the "Receiving" part of his job in the warehouse, he would many times write down the WRONG location where he put the items. I didn't have time to go back into the warehouse and check the locations, so I just put into the computer whatever he had written down on the Receiver form. He was being paid a good salary to do things RIGHT in our warehouse, NOT write down incorrect things many times. I really do think he was dyslexic and if that was the case, he should have never been hired to work in an area where he had to spell words correctly or write down numbers correctly. It was no wonder our inventory cycle counts were off so many times.
Actually, I do like it when a company will give a Literacy Test (as well as a Physical) before hiring.
And, by the way, with the "high technology" of today's warehouses, a person had better know how to read and write VERY WELL.
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Originally Posted by anifani821
Well, I didn't get the correlation between a guy who works in a warehouse not spelling things correctly on an application and also being a lousy co-worker. What has spelling got to do w/ working in a warehouse? Why would someone in HR equate poor spelling skills w/ whether or not a guy can stack stuff?
Lost me on that one.
Some people are not very literate - may not read/write well, but that doesn't mean he/she would not be capable of doing warehouse work.
Some people are dyslexic, as well . . . they just get letters mixed up.
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Originally Posted by TracySam
Gold dust, more on addressing being over-qualified:
I'm now thinking that a major reason people are reluctant to hire an overqualified person, in addition to the things I mentioned above, is that they often have had one bad experience with this type of hire. Then this "horror story" experience colors their decisions about any subsequent overly qualified people.
I posted a question about this on another forum I visit, and so far everyone seems to be coming back with their specific examples of hiring someone who was a bad fit, and happened to be over-qualified. These bad experiences clearly affect hiring managers.
So perhaps knowing this, you can try to "innoculate" for it in the job interviews. Present yourself as humble, not arrogant about your experience. You may have X experience, but you know you always have more to learn. Have examples of "learning something new each day" or examples of when you learned something valuable from a newcomer to your field. Take care to be someone who is very open to learning, and taking direction from others.
Also point out something different about the company and job you are applying for. Something that makes you appreciate what is offered. Have a good reason why taking this job would not be "settling" until something better comes along. Maybe a shift in your personal priorities: like it used to be all about money or advancement, but now with your experience and maturity, you have other values...etc.
Thank you so much TracySam! I have some work to do now! I don't think I come across as arrogant, but I do like to talk about all the good things I have done for my previous companies.
Ok, the correlation with this guy was: Because of his bad hand writing skills, it was pretty hard sometimes to read a number (qty.) he wrote down. When he done the "Receiving" part of his job in the warehouse, he would many times write down the WRONG location where he put the items. I didn't have time to go back into the warehouse and check the locations, so I just put into the computer whatever he had written down on the Receiver form. He was being paid a good salary to do things RIGHT in our warehouse, NOT write down incorrect things many times. I really do think he was dyslexic and if that was the case, he should have never been hired to work in an area where he had to spell words correctly or write down numbers correctly. It was no wonder our inventory cycle counts were off so many times.
Actually, I do like it when a company will give a Literacy Test (as well as a Physical) before hiring.
And, by the way, with the "high technology" of today's warehouses, a person had better know how to read and write VERY WELL.
I think literacy tests are a good idea, too. I also like physicals and drug testing.
May I gently point out to Loveboating that there are also grammatical errors, and one of the most common is the misplaced apostrophe, as in "resume's" and "Gardner's," when those are plurals that should not have the apostrophe, and something like "it's" is a contraction for "it is" and therefore should have the apostrophe. Also, random capitalization, like Waitresses, is not correct.
You are just to PICKY with words, but that's ok. A Literacy Test doesn't have to be given to everyone who applies to a company. But, there are certain positions that should require it in order to "weed out" the people who have problems writing or with basic math. I have taken this test before with absolutely no problems passing it. A Physical will not tell if a person has problems in these two areas (writing/math). If a person is going to work with numbers, as this guy did, he should write clearly and be able to do basic math (of which he had a big problems with both). We finally got our inventory straightened out after he left the company. IMO, the Department supervisor should have never hired him for this warehouse position.
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Originally Posted by brightdoglover
May I gently point out to Loveboating that there are also grammatical errors, and one of the most common is the misplaced apostrophe, as in "resume's" and "Gardner's," when those are plurals that should not have the apostrophe, and something like "it's" is a contraction for "it is" and therefore should have the apostrophe. Also, random capitalization, like Waitresses, is not correct.
You are just to PICKY with words, but that's ok. A Literacy Test doesn't have to be given to everyone who applies to a company. But, there are certain positions that should require it in order to "weed out" the people who have problems writing or with basic math. I have taken this test before with absolutely no problems passing it. A Physical will not tell if a person has problems in these two areas (writing/math). If a person is going to work with numbers, as this guy did, he should write clearly and be able to do basic math (of which he had a big problems with both). We finally got our inventory straightened out after he left the company. IMO, the Department supervisor should have never hired him for this warehouse position.
Now this makes much more sense!
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