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Old 07-09-2009, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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Many who DO wind up teaching, well, they do not always have 'the right stuff' but rather 'Daddy on the school board' or "Mommy knows the Superintendent!'
I forgot that aspect of it! Certainly alive and well on Long Island (although many LI teachers will SWEAR they got their job answering an ad in the NY Times).
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Old 07-09-2009, 05:33 PM
 
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I was told there was a shortage of science teachers. They never tell where they need them (Hells Kitchen area).
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Old 07-09-2009, 05:42 PM
 
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The trouble is, getting a teaching job is like getting an acting job. Nearly impossible!!

Do you have any idea HOW many people graduate with BS/MS degrees in Education every year?

Far, far more than there are jobs, just like in all these other fantasy careers!!
Yes, teaching now is the new 'hot' career...!

Many who DO wind up teaching, well, they do not always have 'the right stuff' but rather 'Daddy on the school board' or "Mommy knows the Superintendent!'

So now another bunch of 40 somethings who have no where else to go will think they can get certified and 'get a teaching job.' Summers off, ohh!!!

Great!!

Well, good luck to you!!
The elementary education job market is extremely saturated. Even during the good economic times, it was tough for an elementary teacher to find a job. I had to fill out 300 applications in 2004 to find my first teaching job. I know individuals who were wonderful teachers who left the profession just because they were tired of being out of work. I am an unemployed elementary teacher.

I really feel bad for the elementary teachers with master's degrees. I have a bachelor's degree and the job market is tough enough. I heard with a master's it is even tougher because there are so many elementary teachers that schools want and can hire super cheap.

I don't like news articles like this one. I mean what are they trying to do...make more people unemployed? These articles should state that the only areas in education that are really hiring right now are special ed, foreign languages, math, and science. Unfortunately, most people who are reading stuff like this think that they can go get that degree in physical education, elementary education, music, art, history, or early childhood education and get off the unemployment rolls. When in reality they will finish school and go straight to the unemployment line.
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Old 07-09-2009, 05:58 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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The elementary education job market is extremely saturated. Even during the good economic times, it was tough for an elementary teacher to find a job. I had to fill out 300 applications in 2004 to find my first teaching job. I know individuals who were wonderful teachers who left the profession just because they were tired of being out of work. I am an unemployed elementary teacher.

I really feel bad for the elementary teachers with master's degrees. I have a bachelor's degree and the job market is tough enough. I heard with a master's it is even tougher because there are so many elementary teachers that schools want and can hire super cheap.

I don't like news articles like this one. I mean what are they trying to do...make more people unemployed? These articles should state that the only areas in education that are really hiring right now are special ed, foreign languages, math, and science. Unfortunately, most people who are reading stuff like this think that they can go get that degree in physical education, elementary education, music, art, history, or early childhood education and get off the unemployment rolls. When in reality they will finish school and go straight to the unemployment line.

Well in defense of the newspaper or article, the purpose is attract readers so they are never going to tell the real story.

Kind of reminds me of a TV news story back in April here in Philly when they reported the "Philadelphia Zoo is hiring" but failed to mention that they were only looking for seasonal workers. When it comes to the media it's all about the story not the real facts
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Old 07-09-2009, 07:14 PM
 
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In our small school district, besides teachers being cut because of budget cuts, teachers who are eligible for retirement are not retiring.

The steady and orderly retirement of teachers always was the best chance for new teachers to get hired ( and it saved the district money by doing so)

New teachers are now facing a "double whammy"
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Old 07-09-2009, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Several years ago North Carolina was one of those states who cried they needed teachers. Don't get me wrong they needed them but they only needed secondary math and science teachers. The article probably isn't telling the whole story.
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Old 07-10-2009, 07:15 PM
 
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Several years ago North Carolina was one of those states who cried they needed teachers. Don't get me wrong they needed them but they only needed secondary math and science teachers. The article probably isn't telling the whole story.
Arizona was also crying about needing teachers. They needed them in bordertowns and extremely small spots in the road that are 100 miles away from the nearest, decent sized city. They also needed math, science, and special ed teachers.
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Old 07-11-2009, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Space Coast
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Science is my area, so I can't contribute to other subjects. The one area where I know almost every state continues to need "highly qualified" teachers is secondary (high school) physics. I was secondary biology and had no problem finding work in 2001, but I hear even that is tuff these days. Also, some areas are starting to look toward hiring specialists in elementary science within the next few years because there is going to be an even larger push (more federal dept of ed dollars being spent) for science education.
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Old 07-16-2009, 11:31 AM
 
Location: St Augustine
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That website isn't an "article" it's an advertisement.
I have been desperately searching for a teaching position (SAHM for 10yrs, but worked part time with preschools, YMCA) in a 3 county area for 2 years. I can barely get sub jobs b/c it's oversaturated with out of work teachers too.
One nearby county laid off all 450 teachers that weren't permanant contract. The last two years I've seen many great teachers laid off and most were not able to find work, even in inner city areas of Jax.
I've thought of going and adding sped ed to my degree but will it help? Who knows.
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Old 07-16-2009, 11:57 AM
 
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That website isn't an "article" it's an advertisement.
I have been desperately searching for a teaching position (SAHM for 10yrs, but worked part time with preschools, YMCA) in a 3 county area for 2 years. I can barely get sub jobs b/c it's oversaturated with out of work teachers too.
One nearby county laid off all 450 teachers that weren't permanant contract. The last two years I've seen many great teachers laid off and most were not able to find work, even in inner city areas of Jax.
I've thought of going and adding sped ed to my degree but will it help? Who knows.
I know in my area, ANYONE with a degree can sub. So we have not only teachers desperate to sub but also unemployed engineers, secretaries, grannies, what have you...'anyone' looking for a few bucks.

I think this is very wrong. Only trained people should be allowed in a classroom. Again, it shows how 'little' value is placed on education compared to the bottom line ($$).

I was turned down for an aide job in a public preschool despite over 5 years preschool experience. The principal, trying to soften the blow, said to me to try 'subbing' to get in...yeah, okay, work 1 day a week if that...That's the reason I quit teaching years ago...unsteady work!!
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