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One wonders what the 'pure' Brythonic look is like, I suppose one might look to the most Celtic parts of Ireland or Wales for a clue, or even the Basques. Romans talked about blonde Celts, yet basques seem overwhelmingly dark featured, with less of the blonde-blue eyed mutations of the Indo-Europeans. Yeah the blonde mutation didn't spread to everybody, of course.
What have Basques to do with Celts? The Basques have never spoken a Celtic language so no connection there. The Irish don't speak a Brythonic language but Gaelic for starters.
Here is a montage of people from Co. Mayo in Ireland. It is in the far west of Ireland and they don't look very dark featured in my opinion. The link is also interesting to read.
^ Well Basques are genetically distinct, speak an ancient pre IE language, so are thought to be what ancient Europeans looked like before the influx of people from the East. It's reasonable to think genetically the pre-Celtic Britons (those that lived there before the spread of Celtic culture) might have resembled them.
^ Well Basques are genetically distinct, speak an ancient pre IE language, so are thought to be what ancient Europeans looked like before the influx of people from the East. It's reasonable to think genetically the pre-Celtic Britons (those that lived there before the spread of Celtic culture) might have resembled them.
The Basques aren't anymore ancient that any other Europeans. They just didn't acquire Indo-European languages. The futher west you go in Europe the less influence from the East. The Basque are most probably a more isolated population but I doubt if pre-Celtic Britons were much different before the adoption of Celtic language and culture. There wouldn't have been a signicant change in the population.
^ Well Basques are genetically distinct, speak an ancient pre IE language, so are thought to be what ancient Europeans looked like before the influx of people from the East. It's reasonable to think genetically the pre-Celtic Britons (those that lived there before the spread of Celtic culture) might have resembled them.
They're not; they're genetically indistinguishable from the rest of people living in the Iberian peninsula.
Traveler your posts on the subject of British people and how they look make absolutely no sense (least not to me). How do you arrive at your conclusions?
Travels, people I know and observations. in general.
What have Basques to do with Celts? The Basques have never spoken a Celtic language so no connection there. The Irish don't speak a Brythonic language but Gaelic for starters.
Here is a montage of people from Co. Mayo in Ireland. It is in the far west of Ireland and they don't look very dark featured in my opinion. The link is also interesting to read.
Your people have very light features, they are not dark by any means. Whoever said that they are dark, doesn't know what they are talking about. In terms of complexion, you can't get any paler or whiter than the Irish("ghost-white"), some could have dark hair but that's about it! David McCarthy the middle-distance runner is a good example. There is a story written in Old Norse Saga of Iceland about a mythical land/some land I believe found by the Norse whom they called it "Greater Ireland" interpreted also as White Men's Land(Hvitramannland). The Vikings called it "Great Ireland", because they thought that the people whom they met on that island were described "as white people with hair and skin as white as snow." This mythical or mysterious "White Men's Land" according to the saga of Eric the Red lies west of Hibernia proper near Vinland. This story or maybe myth from the Old Norse sagas tells us that even then Vikings did not describe the Irish as dark but actually very pale- complected people.[/quote]
Your people have very light features, they are not dark by any means. Whoever said that they are dark, doesn't know what they are talking about. In terms of complexion, you can't get any paler or whiter than the Irish("ghost-white"), some could have dark hair but that's about it! David McCarthy the middle-distance runner is a good example. There is a story written in Old Norse Saga of Iceland about a mythical land/some land I believe found by the Norse whom they called it "Greater Ireland" interpreted also as White Men's Land(Hvitramannland). The Vikings called it "Great Ireland", because they thought that the people whom they met on that island were described "as white people with hair and skin as white as snow." This mythical or mysterious "White Men's Land" according to the saga of Eric the Red lies west of Hibernia proper near Vinland. This story or maybe myth from the Old Norse sagas tells us that even then Vikings did not describe the Irish as dark but actually very pale- complected people.
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Irish are very pale skinned, and while blondeness is not uncommon, they're noticeably less so than Nordic people.
Irish are very pale skinned, and while blondeness is not uncommon, they're noticeably less so than Nordic people.[/quote]
Yes but do they look more Southern European than Northern European? Traveller is always saying that the Irish and British have no natural blonds and are much closer to Southern Europeans.
Irish are very pale skinned, and while blondeness is not uncommon, they're noticeably less so than Nordic people.
Yes but do they look more Southern European than Northern European? Traveller is always saying that the Irish and British have no natural blonds and are much closer to Southern Europeans.[/quote]
They vary. Some do look sort of Spanish, while others look more Nordic. Others have a different look altogether, a more Celtoid/Atlantid type.
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